I have an ancient Sambucus Sutherland's gold which I reckon is about 50 years old. It certainly has tree like trunk/s. I am very fond of it as we can get late frosts/high winds and this "poor man's Acer" seems to stand up better than the various Acers I have. A couple of years ago I bought a Sambucus Black Lace and took cuttings of it just in case it didn't make it through it's 1st winter here...did.Easily got about 5 cuttings off The Black Lace with the good old poly bag over the pot method. Last year I decided I must get round to take cuttings of the Sutherland's Gold as I have no idea how much longer it will keep going. WELL started this carry on last Autumn with hardwood cuttings..success ZERO. Then started taking cutting this year about May time right through to August...success ZERO. I've tried all sorts of different cuttings, nodal, internodal, scarred, with heal of old wood you name it with all leaves present with some, none, with rooting compound and without.Size varying from about 1 inch to 2 ft in desperation!Tried various growing mediums from pure sand to pure peat, not a jot of difference. Can only think this variety needs bottom heat maybe. While no genius gardener I usually manage to get cuttings to strike unless they are notoriously difficult and best left to the experts to tackle.Really puzzled as to why The Black Lace was easy and The Sutherland's gold isn't. Hope someone can help. I dislike paying Garden centre prices unless a plant is nigh on impossible to propagate for an amateur with no fancy equipment.