UK and the EU

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussion' started by clanless, Nov 9, 2015.

  1. pamsdish

    pamsdish Total Gardener

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2008
    Messages:
    5,151
    Gender:
    Female
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    "Black Country Wench" in Margam,Port Talbot,Wales
    Ratings:
    +4,445
    If they won`t include us can we stop paying in.
     
    • Agree Agree x 3
    • Fat Controller

      Fat Controller 'Cuddly' Scottish Admin! Staff Member

      Joined:
      May 5, 2012
      Messages:
      27,770
      Gender:
      Male
      Occupation:
      Public Transport
      Location:
      At me 'puter, GCHQ Ashford Office, Middlesex
      Ratings:
      +52,213
      Aye, they have proper taken the huff. How becoming of them...
       
      • Agree Agree x 3
      • Funny Funny x 2
      • Fern4

        Fern4 Total Gardener

        Joined:
        Jan 30, 2013
        Messages:
        16,335
        Gender:
        Female
        Occupation:
        The gardener of the house!
        Location:
        Liverpool
        Ratings:
        +7,491
        I don't think they're going to play nicely.
         
        • Agree Agree x 3
        • CanadianLori

          CanadianLori Total Gardener

          Joined:
          Sep 20, 2015
          Messages:
          9,948
          Occupation:
          Battle Axe
          Location:
          Oakville, Ontario, Canada Zone 5A
          Ratings:
          +31,874
          Well, we didn't let NAFTA mutate to meddling in our internal affairs. That's why I mentioned that it is truly just a Trade Act nothing to do with anything else. It is all about tariff free goods and that's all. I don't believe we have a SAFTA though.:dunno:

          @shiney, Go ahead, blame it on us. Luckily we came through 2008 and the aftermath fairly decently because I believe our banking laws are much stricter than the ones south of the border which allowed the creation of the junk mortgage market and eventual collapse. And we were grateful for being a little too conservative with our laws. :)

          We don't let the U.S. or Mexico define our human rights laws or who is allowed within our borders. And vice versa. We're quite a friendly border. Though we haven't yet figured out how to politely tell them to stop watering down their beer...:heehee:

          Hey, next year we're celebrating our 150th anniversary of Dominion. And we became a dominion because we, England and Canada are most wonderfully civilized :spinning:

          And this coming Friday, Canada Day, I will be attending my DIL's taking her Oath of Citizenship. I'm so excited :hapydancsmil:
           
          • Friendly Friendly x 3
          • Like Like x 1
          • pete

            pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

            Joined:
            Jan 9, 2005
            Messages:
            51,129
            Gender:
            Male
            Occupation:
            Retired
            Location:
            Mid Kent
            Ratings:
            +94,058
            I honestly cant see that there should be any problem.
            Surely belonging the the EU is purely up to the member countries, if one country decides to leave its up to them:scratch:.
            Why should there be animosity between us?

            Its like a bunch of spoilt kids.
            And that is on both sides.
             
            • Agree Agree x 6
            • Like Like x 1
            • shiney

              shiney President, Grumpy Old Men's Club Staff Member

              Joined:
              Jul 3, 2006
              Messages:
              63,567
              Gender:
              Male
              Occupation:
              Retired - Last Century!!!
              Location:
              Herts/Essex border. Zone 8b
              Ratings:
              +123,991
              Can someone please pick up my toys? I can't reach them from my pram! :lunapic 130165696578242 5:
               
              • Funny Funny x 4
              • Phil A

                Phil A Guest

                Ratings:
                +0
                So there's this island that the queen is the lord of, it's never been in the EU and the only trade problems they seem to have are a shortage of loo paper now and again. Maybe we should be seeing what they get up to @Sheal :whistle:
                 
                • Funny Funny x 3
                • Like Like x 1
                • Agree Agree x 1
                • ARMANDII

                  ARMANDII Low Flying Administrator Staff Member

                  Joined:
                  Jan 12, 2019
                  Messages:
                  48,096
                  Gender:
                  Male
                  Ratings:
                  +100,844
                  [​IMG]
                   
                  • Funny Funny x 5
                  • ARMANDII

                    ARMANDII Low Flying Administrator Staff Member

                    Joined:
                    Jan 12, 2019
                    Messages:
                    48,096
                    Gender:
                    Male
                    Ratings:
                    +100,844
                    Naaah, pete, it's a bit like Teachers, it tends to catch me in the back of the throat after the third glass.:nonofinger::dunno::snorky:
                     
                    • Funny Funny x 4
                    • Informative Informative x 1
                    • kindredspirit

                      kindredspirit Gardening around a big Puddle. :)

                      Joined:
                      Nov 21, 2009
                      Messages:
                      3,714
                      Gender:
                      Male
                      Occupation:
                      Retired.
                      Location:
                      Western Ireland (but in a cold pocket)
                      Ratings:
                      +4,700
                      Thousands of "Remain" English have started landing illegally in ribs on the East coast of Ireland.


                      [​IMG]

                      :) :) :)




                      .
                       
                      • Funny Funny x 9
                      • Like Like x 1
                      • Agree Agree x 1
                      • ARMANDII

                        ARMANDII Low Flying Administrator Staff Member

                        Joined:
                        Jan 12, 2019
                        Messages:
                        48,096
                        Gender:
                        Male
                        Ratings:
                        +100,844
                        We, and Business, don't, Pete, but the Politicians do!!! It's all about power and control. You're right the USA hasn't got a trade agreement with the EU but has been "negotiating for A Trade Deal but have, at the moment, a trade deal called TTIP [Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership] which is advantageous to the USA big companies but doesn't appear to be in the interests of workers. India has been "negotiating" FTA [Free Trade Agreement] with the EU for around 9 years but both want the advantage over the other so it's basically stalled.....although, again, trade is still going on as normal!!:snorky:
                         
                        • Informative Informative x 3
                        • Agree Agree x 1
                        • pete

                          pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

                          Joined:
                          Jan 9, 2005
                          Messages:
                          51,129
                          Gender:
                          Male
                          Occupation:
                          Retired
                          Location:
                          Mid Kent
                          Ratings:
                          +94,058
                          I think David Cameron had his say a while ago, but it didn't amount to much.:biggrin:
                           
                          • Agree Agree x 1
                          • longk

                            longk Total Gardener

                            Joined:
                            Nov 24, 2011
                            Messages:
                            11,387
                            Location:
                            Oxfordshire
                            Ratings:
                            +23,104
                            Imagine that your missus told you that she had met someone else and wanted a divorce but refused to leave the home (heaven forbid) - how would relations be? Over simplistic maybe but not totally dissimilar.

                            They have a fair point. Gone is the opportunity of a cheaper university in Europe, the opportunity to up bags and try living in a European city whilst they're still young, possibly even making a permanent move (the second two may still be possible but not as an automatic right).

                            In all fairness on this one they were told that remaining in the EU as an independent state was not an automatic option. So they do have a point, the remainder of the UK has changed the structure of what the Scots voted for. Jeeeezz, I hate agreeing with Sturgeon almost as much as I hate agreeing with Cameroon.

                            ....................
                            @Freddy - They could hardly have told us that when "regaining our sovereignty" was one of the main selling points. Unfortunately it is true. Making all EU legislation is null and void is not an option as much of it will need something else in its place.

                            I sort of know what you mean. I was sickened at the TV footage showing a bunch of Brexit supporters celebrating and waving the union jack flag at an open topped bus full of tourists.

                            Same here and it's supposed to be an affluent area. All too often I hear the word Paki used by both people whose privileged upbringing means that they should know better and by people whose upbringing never taught them any different. I've said it before on this forum and been shot down for it but I do think that the British are racist in the majority and not the minority.
                            Rant over - apologies to all.

                            Exactly. And this was one of the lies that Boris told on the last debate when he said that the UK could not trade with the US because the EU does not have a trade deal with them. I nearly smashed my own TV up at that point.

                            The UK will be present but for a part of the summit we will be excluded as it is about us. All other business will see us present.
                             
                            • Like Like x 1
                            • Agree Agree x 1
                              Last edited: Jun 25, 2016
                            • clueless1

                              clueless1 member... yep, that's what I am:)

                              Joined:
                              Jan 8, 2008
                              Messages:
                              17,778
                              Gender:
                              Male
                              Location:
                              Here
                              Ratings:
                              +19,597
                              Cameron showed how spineless he was then. Or so I thought. But then in the ultimate act of spinelessness, what does he do? Sets up a referendum, then runs away right when we need him to deal with the result. Cheers Dave.
                               
                              • Like Like x 2
                              • clueless1

                                clueless1 member... yep, that's what I am:)

                                Joined:
                                Jan 8, 2008
                                Messages:
                                17,778
                                Gender:
                                Male
                                Location:
                                Here
                                Ratings:
                                +19,597
                                With respect, it's entirely different. I don't think Britain ever made pledge of monogamy and never ending love with Europe. I don't think Britain promised to honour Europe with its body and forsake all others. Im pretty sure that if anyone did have sex to celebrate the union, it won't have been an official part of it. And I don't think Britain is now having sex with another international union.

                                One would hope that the Europe is run by professional people.
                                 
                                • Funny Funny x 4
                                • Agree Agree x 1
                                  Last edited: Jun 25, 2016

                                Share This Page

                                1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
                                  By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
                                  Dismiss Notice