2016 Tomato Growing

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    my first tomatoes are forming!

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    I'm also growing currant tomatoes which I read are best left to grow as they want, rather than keeping them to a single stem. That's all very well but it's taken over my greenhouse [emoji15] absolutely loaded with developing toms though.

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      How come you should cut off any outgrowings in between the plant and "arms" ?
      Ive read that it has something to do with the tomatoes getting ready before the cold.

      But that dosent really apply in a apartment. Or are the other reasons?
       
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      @Magnus this is called side-shooting and is done for 'indeterminate' (aka 'cordon') varieties. It's to train the plant to keep one central stem so all the plants energy go into that and you get more and bigger fruits. If you left them on, the plant just becomes a jumble of leaves and fewer/small fruit. You don't do it for 'determinate' (aka 'bush') varieties.

      What varieties are you growing?
       
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        I have two varieties growing. The one in flowers right now is an "indeterminate" and the second (witch still is very small) is hundreds & thousands, so the bushy type.

        I have read different things depending on where I look. But I suppose trying out for myself is the best. Its called "tomatoberry" and supposed to get heart shaped tomatoes.

        Do indeterminate tomatoes actually produce until the climate gets cold enough?
        (Do you thing I could pick tomatoes in December in my south facing window?

        I would suppose that the sun wont provide enought "juice" by that time, but
        interesting thought.
         
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        I have actually missed some of these side shootings and didnt realize that
        they where there, until I properly looked for them. Funny how the plants
        ju go on, with or without me. :)

        Oh and is it true that tomatoes hate being crowded? Mine are actually not,
        but I definetely see potencial in "bushening" them since theres still a lot of
        open window space:biggrin: Perhaps no need for a Christmas tree this year, just
        bring down the gnomes etc. and place them with the tomatoes. No need for
        "christmas-tree-balls" either, tomatoes already in place:blue thumb:
         
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        Tomatoes (determinate & indeterminate) keep going till the weather turns cooler, I've had them growing strongly till November some years. If you pick them green they will ripen if you store them in a drawer/shoebox and occasionally I've managed to have a few at Christmas. BUT most years they slow down the end of September and the fruit stop ripening, also they start to suffer from fungal diseases - moulds which can wipe them out as they become weaker. Last year I picked the last tomatoes on 10th October and that was down to the poor weather last summer.

        So most people 'stop' the plants at 6 to 8 trusses, 'stopping'means pinching out the top growing point. That encourages the plants to put all it's energy into the fruit. The usual time to do this is late August so that the fruit will swell and ripen before the cooler conditions, but it depends on your growing location and the predicted weather.

        My experience is growing in a greenhouse so it will be different if you have them in your house - you won't know till you try.

        For outdoor tomatoes they need to be 'stopped' earlier and with fewer trusses - I aim for just 3 or 4.
         
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          Yes they don't like their leaves touching which raises humidity and makes them suffer with fungal diseases. Leave some space so air can circulate.
           
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          Thank you for your answers. Exciting to see how they will react indoors then.
          The two plants that has begun flower are actually those closest to the open windows,
          witch tells something about their relationship to temperature I guess.

          However, I would not let them go till December, would just feel wrong. Perhaps the harvest
          could be at my birthday, 30th of October then. Will keep in mind to give them space as well,
          because I dont think it will last forever.
           
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            It would be good to see some photos of them Magnus.
             
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            Certainly! Will get back later this evening.
             
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            Were just about to show my mother the yellow flowers and pointed at one
            with the top of my finger *poff* dropped to the floor.
            However only one. I assume this was left since before I started with the
            gentle shaking and fan towards the plants for pollination then.
             
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            Here comes three newly taken pics of my "indoor garden".

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            ..Just below here: )

            Seven Tomato plants atm.
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            How long do I get with "gold water" by the way?
            Read a test in Sweden where this won first place out of
            20 other chemical substanses.

            But not sure what to think really.
             
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