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  1. HsuH

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    I know, I know... there are lots of miseries in the world that could break one's heart, but in the little world of HsuH, this really IS bad :cry3:. My tomato plants are more or less destroyed by blight.:gaah:.

    I've just spent 3 hours clearing away the badly effected parts. The greenhouse on both sides looked like this before I started
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    Now it's like
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    With this big pile outside
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    I'm going to spray the remaining plants later today, but deep in my heart I feel it is too late to save them since we don't have any systemic fungicide to deal with the blight that's raging inside the plants. I blame myself for not checking but how would I know the blight arrived so early this year??? This teaches me a lesson alright:psnp:.

    So dear GC friends, please go and check your plants ASAP!!
     
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    • Redfox

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      Sadness.....
       
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      • JWK

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        That's a big shame, and very unlucky to get it inside a greenhouse. I had it once and put it down to using infected rain water from a shed roof.

        I've used Bordeaux Mixture in the past to slow down it's progress.
         
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        • Beckie76

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          Aw, I'm sorry @HsuH :grphg:, what a shame my friend :sad:
           
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          • silu

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            All that hard work I feel for you. I destroyed all my Tomatoes 1 year by spraying them for whitefly with a sprayer that I'd used for weed killing that I hadn't washed out properly. That was my fault while you have had just bad luck. I've always maintained gardening isn't easy!
             
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              What does tomato blight look like?
               
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              Sorry to read about your toms HsuH. :grphg:
               
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                @HsuH so sorry to hear about your tomatoes :grphg: Good of you to give GC members a reminder to check theirs :thumbsup:
                 
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                  "Potato and tomato blight



                  Potato and tomato blight, properly called late blight, is a disease of the foliage and fruit or tubers of tomatoes and potatoes, causing rotting. It is most common in wet weather.



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                  Quick facts
                  Common name Potato and tomato blight, late blight
                  Scientific namePhytophthora infestans
                  Plants affected Potatoes and tomatoes
                  Main symptoms Brown rotting, shrivelled leaves
                  Caused by Fungus-like organism
                  Timing: Early summer onwards
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                  What is tomato and potato blight?


                  Potato and tomato blight is a disease caused by a fungus-like organism that spreads rapidly in the foliage and tubers or fruit of potatoes and tomatoes in wet weather, causing collapse and decay.

                  It is a serious disease for potatoes and outdoor tomatoes, but not as common on tomatoes grown in greenhouses.

                  Blight is specific to tomatoes, potatoes and some ornamental relatives of these two crops. Cases have been recorded on ornamental Solanum species (e.g. S. laciniatum), and also on Petunia.



                  What is early blight of potatoes?


                  Early blight is a different disease that is widely found in North America, and is commonly reported on the internet. This fungal disease of potatoes is caused by Alternaria solani andA. alternata. It is not a common problem in British gardens and is frequently confused withmagnesium deficiency.



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                  Blight in potatoes is characterised by a rapidly spreading, watery rot of leaves which soon collapse, shrivel and turn brown.

                  Symptoms


                  You may see the following symptoms:

                  Potatoes

                  • The initial symptom of blight on potatoes is a rapidly spreading, watery rot of leaves which soon collapse, shrivel and turn brown. During humid conditions, a fine white fungal growth may be seen around the edge of the lesions on the underside of the leaves
                  • Brown lesions may develop on the stems
                  • If allowed to spread unchecked, the disease will reach the tubers. Affected tubers have a reddish-brown decay below the skin, firm at first but soon developing into a soft rot as the tissues are invaded by bacteria. Early attacks of blight may not be visible on tubers, but any infected tubers will rot in store
                  Tomatoes

                  • The symptoms on tomato leaves and stems are similar to those on potatoes
                  • Brown patches may appear on green fruit, while more mature fruits will decay rapidly


                  Control


                  Non-chemical control
                  • Infected material should be deeply buried (more than 45cm deep), consigned to the green waste collection or, ideally, burned rather than composted
                  • Earthing up potatoes provides some protection to tubers
                  • Early-harvested potatoes are more likely to escape infection
                  • Gardeners are able to access forecast warnings of when blight is active, or when there have been confirmed cases, in their region (visit the Fight Against Blight website),
                  • Picking off leaves or leaflets when just a few are affected may slow down the progress of the disease very slightly, but will not eradicate the problem
                  • When infection levels reach about 25 percent of leaves affected or marks appear on stems cut off the foliage (haulm), severing the stalks near soil level and raking up debris. When the skin on tubers has hardened, after about two weeks, the tubers can be dug up. To prevent slug damage avoid leaving tubers in the soil after this time
                  • Use the tubers from blighted crops as soon as possible, checking any stored tubers regularly for decay
                  • Operate a rotation to reduce the risk of infection, ideally of at least four years
                  • Destroy all potatoes left in the soil, and any waste from storage, before the following spring
                  The genetic population of the fungus is ever changing and new findings have shown that one dominant new strain seems to have overcome major gene resistance. In the past some potato varieties had shown some resistance, these included ‘Cara’, ‘Kondor’, ‘Orla’, ‘Markies’ and ‘Valor’, but this is not currently effective. The ‘Sarpo’ range exhibit more effective resistance than other cultivars and can be grown satisfactorily without fungicide protection. Some old favourites are very susceptible, eg ‘Arran Pilot’, ‘King Edward’, ‘Majestic’, ‘Sharpe’s Express’. Varieties that were previously rated resistant have been retested against this new dominant strain and the results have been published.

                  Tomatoes are generally very susceptible, but the varieties ‘Ferline’, ‘Legend’ and ‘Fantasio’ are claimed to show some resistance. Even these varieties, however, will eventually succumb in wet, warm weather. It is probably best not to rely on host resistance for blight control in tomatoes.

                  Chemical control
                  There are currently no fungicides available for use by gardeners against blight on potatoes or tomatoes.



                  Biology


                  The late blight pathogen is a microscopic, fungus-like organism whose sporangia (spore-bearing structures) easily break away from infected foliage and may be wind-blown for long distances. The actual infective spores are released from the sporangia into water and need to swim in a water film before settling on the plant surface and penetrating into leaf tissues; this is why the disease is so serious in wet summers. The pathogen then spreads rapidly, killing the cells. Under humid conditions, stalks bearing sporangia grow from freshly killed tissues and the disease can spread rapidly through the crop.

                  The pathogen overwinters in rotten potatoes left in the ground or by the sides of fields. However, the great majority of infections in gardens arise from wind-blown sporangia originating in other gardens, allotments and commercial crops. In the UK, outbreaks may occur from June onwards, usually earliest in the South West.

                  The presence of new strains in the UK means that the pathogen now has the potential to produce resting spores (oospores) in the affected plant tissues. The oospores are released from the rotting tissues to contaminate the soil. These resting spores have yet to be found in the UK, however, and little is currently known about their survival and their potential as a source of the disease. The investigations into oospores are continuing and more information may be available in a few years.

                  Late attacks of blight defoliate potato crops, but if the disease arrives after the tubers are set and they are harvested before they become infected, little is lost. However early attacks can also be devastating and blight is the most important commercial disease of potatoes. Outdoor tomatoes are at high risk of infection if the weather is suitable. The disease is less of a problem under glass as the spores have to find their way into the glasshouse through doors and vents. If, however, blight establishes in a glasshouse the high humidity inside usually leads to very rapid development of symptoms."




                  Really sorry to hear that, my friend.
                   
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                  • HsuH

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                    Thanks everyone. Your kindness makes me feel a lot better already:)

                    Some years ago I used rain water to water tomatoes in the GH, ended up with blight. Since then I always use mains water but still get blight late in the season, therefore I think that the rain leaking in through the roof is the cause :scratch:

                    That was unfortunate, silu. A couple of months ago I sprayed some of my house plants with mould remover instead of pesticide. I did notice the smell but didn't realise the problem until I finished. This was followed by a good shower for the houseplants and then a few crossed fingers. I'm glad to say that the plants survived and they are also very clean and aphids free:biggrin:

                    I didn't take any close up pictures of my blighted plants. The link below gives an idea what it looks like and I hope it is useful.
                    http://www.wildchicken.com/kitchen_garden_journal/kgj_2009_08.htm
                     
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                    • pete

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                      Must admit I couldn't see any blight.:scratch:

                      I was under the impression blight is airbourne, might be wrong, but I dont think using rain water is likely to be the cause, its a fungus that attacks when conditions are ideal, rather than contagious.
                      Sorry @ARMANDII , didn't read your post, but I will when I get a couple of spare days,.... Honest?:biggrin:
                       
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                        :heehee::loll::lunapic 130165696578242 5:............that's just 'cos you're reading Enid Blyton again, pete.:dunno::heehee:
                         
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                        • pete

                          pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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                          Enid Blyton never read anything what I wrote, so why should I read his stuff.;)
                           
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                          • Freddy

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                            I agree with Pete. I can't see any signs of blight, from the picture?
                             
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                            • HsuH

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                              I grabbed a handful of the discarded pieces out from the bag for this close-up photo. I'm sending all the blighted material to the landfill rather than green recycle.
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                              I'm not surprised that you couldn't see blight. Even though I go into the GH everyday (mostly to annoy ants:heehee:) I failed to notice the presence of the blight. Yesterday I noticed a few leaves looked not happy causing me to have a closer look at the plants and thereafter discover the horror :yikes:.
                              Because most of the plants are cherry tomatoes they became too congested. Also with too much rain and cool temperature outside I didn't open the GH door enough recently. So I think high humidity and lack of air circulation are the cause of the problem. Interestingly tomato Roma plants I've planned outside have not effected.
                               
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