UK and the EU

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  1. JWK

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    Because many countries do very well out of the EU, Greece, Poland , Spain and Portugal get the biggest handouts.

    Since the UK is the second biggest contributor there will be less to go around unless the Germans, Dutch and French make up the gap.
     
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      So what is to stop the Germans, Dutch and French wanting a referendum?
      If they all voted to leave where would that leave the ones who remain?
      Up the creek without a paddle.

      I do tend to think the EU will come down on us big time, we need to try to forge our links with the rest of the world, and try to pretend Europe doesn't exist:biggrin:
      Because in the coming years I dont think they will be giving us much.

      On the other hand.
      If Germany left, along with France and Holland, we could form some kind of trading deal, a kind of "Common Market".
      Now that would be a novel idea.:lunapic 130165696578242 5:
       
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        Nah!! Would never work. :nonofinger: :heehee:
         
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          Yep. We need to enact article 50 ASAP. Imagine telling your boss you intend to resign, then not actually doing so for ages.

          The decision has been made. Now we have to get on with it. Trouble is, that means we need a leader, ideally one with a spine.
           
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            No, in hindsight, I dont suppose it would.:biggrin:
             
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              We should do that when we are ready.
              And its no good doing it without a PM.
               
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                I predict the next PM will be a woman :snorky: so I can't say I hope she'll grow a pair, but hopefully she'll have a spine.
                 
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                  Sirius - they may well try, but the EU's major problem is not Brexit. Their major problem is the financial viability of the EU itself, with or without Britain.

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                  http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-...ams-deutsche-bank-europes-most-insolvent-bank

                  The German Deutsche Bank is commonly described as the most dangerous bank in the world. It's insolvent but also carries a frightening amount of derivatives exposure with it - see above. At the same time Italian Banks are on the point of collapse, because they too are insolvent, like many banks around the world.

                  I suspect when the sh*t hits the fan, as it will, the whole EU could break apart. And people will have forgotten Brexit. We will do well to be out of it.

                  Edit - I have just learned that it was the IMF that branded Deutsche Bank the most dangerous bank in the world. I believe they placed HSBC second according to the Keiser report today..
                   
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                    We can't negotiate our own trade deals until we're out. And let's face it, the eu are not going to act in our best interests now.

                    If you snooze you lose. Right now, Britain appears to be snoozing.
                     
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                      So, what you are saying is, the rest of the world won't talk to us, until we push the button?

                      I cant believe things cannot happen until that point.
                       
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                        There will be Trade deals going on with other Countries other than the EU of that there is no doubt, and you can bet your boots that Businesses are now negotiating between themselves on the deals that they themselves can agree to and broker. Business will not hang around for the Politicians to get things done, they know they have to do it themselves.:coffee::snork:
                         
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                          No. What I'm saying is the rest of the world is eager to talk. Australia, Canada and new Zealand even wanted to team up to make a joint deal with us. But the eu stopped it happening. And they can, because as long as we're a member, we're bound by eu rules.

                          Anyway. Didn't we vote to leave? Maybe I'm stupid but I was under the assumption that when asked if we should remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union and the majority chose the latter, I thought it meant more or less as soon as possible. I didn't realise it meant maybe, possibly, maybe just wait till the kids are all grown up. Maybe wait til after Mars has been colonised, tore itself apart in a revolution, declared independence. Maybe when the tectonic plates have shifted enough to reform the continent of pangea.
                           
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                            Oh no! The price of chocolate is going up!
                             
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                              Oh no. What will we do when it exceeds 30p per 100g in the major supermarkets?
                               
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                                Change it to ounces! :dbgrtmb: :heehee:
                                 
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