UK and the EU

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    May be so Armandii but the governance falls to the foreign sec.
     
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      I think that he's, finally, learnt that if he wants a serious future in politics he will need to be more diplomatic. May is certain to keep him on a short leash.
       
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        Will she throw him a little treat every now and again and take him out for walkies too?
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          Good morning yes but who going to keep Theresa May on a short leash:whistle:
           
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            We'll threaten her with you!
             
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              Good afternoon @shiney my friend ,she is known in our circle as "The Rottweiler" colloquially speaking and is incorrigible,but nothing that I cannot handle:heehee:
               
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                  Well Theresa has certainly culled the Notting Hill set. Interesting choice in Boris and I do wonder whether the deal was done before he decided not to stand against her. She will be watching though and if he cocks up she'll soon bring him in line.
                   
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                  Interesting to note that:

                  "In a ComRes poll for the Sunday Mirror and The Independent, 57% rejected calls for a second referendum - ....... Some 29% were in favour.

                  Mrs May also enjoyed a commanding lead over her Labour counterpart Jeremy Corbyn - with 55% saying she is a strong leader compared with 13% for the Opposition leader."

                  Also note that Australia is keen to strike a trade deal with the UK asap.
                   
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                    Australia have said that they would be happy to have a Free Trade deal with the UK, something that's not allowed by the EU at the moment. I can see others coming forward with similar ideas - Canada, New Zealand, S. Africa, India, China, Brazil etc. It's an ideal chance for them to sidestep the current EU regulations.
                     
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                      There's more trade outside of the EU than inside
                       
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                        It can't happen while we're in the eu. That's why Ive said before I think article 50 should be invoked asap.

                        Too many people seem to be focusing their attention on the wrong thing. The focus is on trying to negotiate with the eu before article 50 is invoked. Eu rules say trade deals are not part of exit negotiations and such trade deals should be discussed after a member has left. Therefore as it's clear that the eu intends to stick to those rules, we should get out as quickly as possible, while discussions should be happening concurrently with non eu countries about possible terms for trade deals that could be signed the very same day that we officially leave the eu.
                         
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                          What will they do, kick us out? :whistle: :heehee:
                           
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                            I don't know how they can enforce their rules, or if their enforcement attempts could be ignored.
                             
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                            But you voted for "IN"!!:dunno::scratch::doh:


                            Business will carry on between the UK and the EU countries no matter what, clueless. Business will act "on their feet" moving a darned sight quicker than any of the EU rule makers and bean counters will. Ten years???, that's the EU Politicians bureaucratic speed:dunno::doh: The best thing is to let the Businesses sort it all out, and they will, and if that happens then, in reality, basically nothing will change.
                            Defence and security arrangements may change on paper, but rest assured that very little in practice will change. Europe is in no different state politically/militarily than back in the 1930's, should in the whimsical scenario of Russian invading Europe. They would probably reach the French coast as quickly as the Germans did using overwhelming numbers while everyone dithered and procrastinated, while the UK with it's now impossibly small Army, Navy, and RAF be in the same situation as it was in the 30's. Nuclear deterrent:hate-shocked:?, that would be the very last "solution" that nobody would want to take, except terrorists. But that is a whimsical scenario, not for this thread.:dunno::snorky:

                            Ten years??, I don't think so.:dunno::snork: That is procrastination:

                            "I swing between procrastination and being really thorough so either way things aren't getting done quickly."

                            "Procrastination is the bad habit of putting of until the day after tomorrow what should have been done the day before yesterday. Napoleon Hill"

                            "I think of myself as something of a connoisseur of procrastination, creative and dogged in my approach to not getting things done. Susan Orlean"

                            "I have an advanced degree in procrastination and another one in paranoia"


                            I think I like this quote best as it "nails" our present situation.....

                            "Procrastination is opportunity's assassin. Victor Kiam"
                             

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