Axe attack in Germany

Someone has gone crazy with an axe on a train.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36827725

What on earth is going on. So much violence all the time.

 

Where have you been living clueless the moon ?, shootings here in Sheffield nearly every week,
https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#q=sheffield+shootings&tbm=nws

You should try and watch press TV unsure if its online, i am sure it would open your eyes it does mine .

 

http://www.presstv.com/Default/Live

 

That's an entirely different thing. I lived in a part if Sheffield that has a terrible reputation for 11 years. There were many shootings in that time. Most of them were directly gang related. One, where an innocent woman was narrowly missed, involved a drive by with one drug dealer trying to shoot another.

Of course that doesn't make any of it alright, but violence between low lifes is not the same thing as totally random, unprovoked violence against innocent people who don't even think about the possibility of violence. A family sitting on a train does not typically expect to be hacked at by a psycho with an axe in the name of some imaginary sky fairy.

 

That's an interesting take on it because I read:

I worry about the shootings in America, carried out by Americans who have lived a reasonably privileged lifestyle and appear to have no apparent reason to do what they do.
This instance I see something different though. He was an Afghan refugee, who knows what horrors he had witnessed as he grew up and before he was able to seek refuge or even, what traumas his young and impressionable mind may have been subjected to before asylum was given? Clearly he had a disturbed/traumatised mind.

Thank goodness none of the victims were killed.

 

Who was shown compassion in a safe country. According to the BBC version of the report, he was found to have an IS flag at the time of the attack.

If he's seen horrific things, then surely he'd have been better placed to understand the reasons why violence is bad and wrong. Of course it's easy for me to say that from the comfort of my sofa. Perhaps that's why I see no need for imaginary friends. My life has never really been tough enough for me to need to create an imaginary leader and saviour to tell me what to do or who to brutally attack for no reason.

 

Me too

 

Hi Clueless,
I agree with all you say here, but, this violence is nothing new. It's just that there are many more ways of it being reported now.

In fact, I would say there is a lot less now than if you look at for instance the 13C when you had the Crusaders running amok in Syria and the Middle East, Civil War in England, wars between England, France, Scotland,Wales, Ireland.

In the 17C our 2nd Civil War.

Come forward to the white people killing off the Red Indians in America/Canada was that not terrorism.

You can add Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, India.

Then what about the 20C, two World wars, Spanish Civil War, Vietnam, Cambodia, Korea, Ireland..........

The list would be un-ending.


All I'm saying is imagine if the BBC or the Internet were around at any of those times in history.

Terrorism etc is not a new thing.

 

It is, but at my time of posting it wasn't 100% confirmed to be a terrorist attack, (even though we had a good idea it was) i watch news from all over Europe and nearly everyday similar things are going on that the uk news does not never will cover,

Check out the Sicarii if you want to back in time.

 

I think it was always clear it was a random attack, unless the carriage was full of gangsters from a rival gang.

 

I agree. I've made a similar point myself in various posts.

What makes this a little bit different though is its not a war of one group of people against another. It is violence and evil in its purest form. IS call themselves Muslims, yet they attack other Muslims with the same indiscriminate evil.

Undoubtedly and without question the purest of evil has manifested before, and it would be insulting of me to suggest that past evils were any less significant than present, which is why I'd never suggest that, but even in those episodes of evil, people knew whether or not they were likely to be targeted, based on their nationality, uniform, skin colour, religion or some other attribute. What we're seeing now is completely indiscriminate violence. The Hong Kong family had not done anything to their attacker. China has in fact steadfastly refused to use military intervention against IS. the kids in the crowd in Nice probably didn't even know that anybody was at war with anyone. Yes they were deliberately targeted for some stupid notion of an imaginary god that even fellow believers in that God mostly agree he didn't ask anyone to murder innocent people.

 

When I was a kid, in the late 50s, 60s I can remember that if someone was murdered it was in the news for weeks, then when they found the perpetrator he swung.

I dont think it was like this back then, I dont remember terrorists, or some pregnant fish with some religious reason for attacking ordinary people.
It didn't happen.

Not in this country anyway.

 

I remember the IRA very well, they nearly had me in London,

1970
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_Great_Britain#1970s

1980
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_Great_Britain#1980s

1990
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_Great_Britain#1990s

 

Yep into the 70s with the IRA things changed, plus we had lots of aircraft hy jacks.

 

But when you look back, it wasn't just some nutter on a train with an axe or someone who hires an artic, it was organisations, with planned attacks.

These people these days sit in front of a computer screen and "radicalise" them selves.

They are just very dangerous gullible people that need to be destroyed.
Preferably before they get out of bed in the morning.