Moon machines - Apollo 8

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  1. clueless1

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    I'm just watching a documentary about Apollo 8.

    While I truly commend the engineers and the brave souls that flew in it, I can't help but think it's a perfect example of the profound stupidity of the concept of politics.

    First Russia spend crazy money putting a man into space. So the USA responded by spending ridiculous amounts of money, and risking lives, just to get one up on the Russians.

    Basically, they built a tin can and stuck it on a ballistic missile. Then to get home, they had to effectively free fall pretty much from the moon. The semi final breaking was done by parachutes, just fabric stitched together with the final breaking being impact with the sea.

    Crazy. Brave and pioneering but crazy.
     
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      And before that they were cruel to animals. They should have at least given those chimps a bottle of booze or a joint to let them enjoy the ride :heehee:
       
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        JFK started it all, the Russians were quite content to keep putting up into orbit round canisters that beeped. So they were both in the race to get a man into orbit it was just that the Russians possibly thought taking more risks with their Astronauts lives. Yuri Gagarin was a really brave man to go up into orbit with technology where it was. Alan Shepherd had to settle for being the second man in space due to the fact that Von Braun wanted a another test flight of the rocket due to problems with the Mercury-Redstone engine. If they had known the Russians were close to launching they would have dropped the test flight and taken the risk. The computers on the Apollo missions were no more powerful than a Pocket Calculator and today's mobile phones are more powerful.

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          You're wrong! :nonofinger:

          Georges Melies (France 1902) was the first one to get a man in space. :old:

           
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            Surely John Glenn (who died yesterday) was the second man in space and the first man to orbit the Earth?
             
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              John Glenn was the first American to orbit, before him Alan Shepard was the first American into space. At that point the Russians were winning the space race. Amazing times to live through and follow, at the time I never thought about it being a race between two superpowers, it was just fascinating that men were going into space in rockets.
               
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                Imagine getting into a hire car or loan car to embark on a 100 mile road trip. The salesperson says 'we think this will probably work. We don't know because it's never done more than a few miles in strict test conditions, but yeah, just chill, should be fine man. If it breaks down, or malfunctions in any way, not only are you dead but also we won't be able to retrieve your body for a funeral, but it should be right'.
                 
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                  Don't forget Wallace and Grommit's a "Grand Day Out" in 1989 :dbgrtmb:

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                    Yes :thumbsup: but you also mustn't forget the country of the Duchy of Grand Fenwick whose space programme in 1963 built a manned spaceship to the moon. It was shown in the film 'The Mouse on the Moon' and was the sequel to the 'Mouse Who Roared'.

                    David Kossoff was the scientist who invented and built the spaceship.

                    Both films were good with David being the only main character in both. Peter Sellers, Jean Seberg, William Hartnell and Leo McKern in the first and Margaret Rutherford, Ron Moody, Bernard Cribbens, Terry Thomas, June Ritchie and John Le Mesurier in the second.
                     
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