Any MP who votes against Article 50 will be very 'brave' indeed. If the MP's throw out the negotiated deal - we'll default to the GPA rules - so whatever Teresa comes up with it must be better than the GPA - this is her 'no deal' is better than a 'poor deal' spout. 2 years from March we will be out - what ever the MP's vote. It's a runaway train once the handbrake has been released. Somebody needs to sit down with Nic and explain basic mathematics - we're in the EU now and Scotland spend more than they generate - which is the whole point of the UK - each Country has it's own strengths and weaknesses but as a whole we are stronger. I'm a simple pleb and even I can understand this concept.
CETA, if ratified next month, will not quite be a free trade deal but will be no more than 2% tariffs. GPA and WTO deals will be the default for most things if nothing can be agreed. We've got a couple of fraught years ahead.
Interesting nodule - the EU public procurement rules have been written to comply with the GPA - so if Council's comply with the EU reg's they automatically comply with the GPA. The standard contract notice contains this question - 'Does the GPA apply?'. Brexit means we come out of the WTO as our membership is based upon the EU group membership. We'll have to sign up again in our own right - how soon we can do this who knowns. I'm leaving this one to the grow ups in London. We were originally stand alone members of the WTO before the EU butted in.
I'm still struggling a bit on this one. So why have the final vote on the deal or no deal? It must have some repercussions if the vote went against May? Thing that bothers me is would she be forced to resign or do "a Cameron"? If so that would be the very last thing we would need at that point.
I am investing in Freezer container shipping, mmmn all that NZ Lamb Beautiful cheeses from the UK, Irish butter, Scotch Beef, wines and grapes from SA, CANADA CHILE Welsh Lamb Good old British beers, Stuff the Kraut stuff
I think we get all that already Jack Although cant remember having Canadian wine that often. And one good thing it might stop is live sheep exports to Southern Europe where they tend to just cut them up in their back yards.
In all fairness, the democratic part was deciding to leave. As a nation, we did that. However democracy still applies in every aspect of policy, including the exit plan. The referendum did not grant the Conservative party exclusive control of anything. While they are of course in overall charge, it is still the right and duty of all MPs from all parties to hold the government to account. That's the theory anyway. But as I hinted at earlier, I just worry a bit that the others will just hinder the process and potentially weaken our position by showing their spineless fear.
Tim Farron disagrees; he states May's stance is a "theft" of democracy (00:35) ! It is the people who should have a vote on the end deal So: the MP's think their vote is the one that matters. The public have cast their vote under the assumption *their* vote mattered with a majority vote being representative of a democratic decision. How large, or small, that majority may be is now fair game for word games/manipulation of the fact/political wrangling The PM has drawn certain inferences from that vote and is presenting, what she hopes is, as fair as damn it a deal drawn from that majority vote. Yet, still, a good number of those in Parliament would like a 2nd referendum; or perhaps a 3rd; or even a 4th ... until they get the result they wanted? So, at the end of the day ... just *who* is guilty of "theft" of democracy? I admire her stance on this; I admire how she is endeavouring to handle this political time bomb! Just remember, her tagline is: "This is not a game!" Oh, how very true!!
I agree with everything May said in her speech, I think it was fair and cannot see how the EU can take offence at it in any way, that is in fact if they actually are. Still think Boris is a loose cannon that needs tieing down or maybe best thrown overboard?? One minute you think you like him, the next, you know he is an idiot, he does speak his mind trhough, but usually at the wrong time.
Tim Farron, thats the mindless little twonk that was wittering on about waving white flags the other day after Mays speech. Thanks for coming up with him @"M" . Who is he? Does anyone know?
Nearly all, if not all, of the SNP will vote against triggering Articile 50, along with some members of the DUP, and members of the Welsh National Assembly. In England the people to watch are the Members of the House of Lords as some members feel that they are "untouchable" and will try to delay everything.
