Sleeping on the streets

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  1. wiseowl

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    2017 No wonder they call this Town Charles Dickens country .

    Good morning lets spare a thought for all those unfortunate people sleeping rough on our streets this morning ,its minus 7 centigrade here and I know for a fact that in my local town there are at least 300 + sleeping rough ,I am going to visit them later this morning and do what little I can ie food, hot drinks etc:dunno:
     
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      A very generous thing to do, @wiseowl.

      The very first thing I thought of when I read this were these rather appropriate lyrics written by the late Alan Hull:

      When winter's shadowy fingers
      First pursue you down the street
      And your boots no longer lie
      About the cold around your feet
      Do you spare a thought for summer
      Whose passage is complete?
      Whose memories lie in ruins
      And whose ruins lie in heat
      When winter comes howling in

      When the wind is singing strangely
      Blowing music through your head
      And your rain splattered windows
      Make you decide to stay in bed
      Do you spare a thought for the homeless tramp
      Who wishes he was dead?
      Or do you pull your bed-clothes higher
      Dream of summertime instead
      When winter comes howling in?

      The creeping cold has fingers
      That caress without permission
      And mystic crystal snowdrops
      Only aggravate the condition
      Do you spare one thought for the gypsy
      With no secure position?
      Who's turned and spurned by village and town
      At the magistrate's decision
      When winter comes howling in

      When the turkey's in the oven
      And the Christmas presents are bought
      And Santa's in his module
      He's an American astronaut
      Do you spare one thought for Jesus
      Who had nothing but his thoughts?
      Who got busted just for talking
      And befriending the wrong sorts
      When winter comes howling in
      When winter comes howling in
       
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        In our nearest town we have a charity that has a place for the homeless to drop in for a warm drink and a little food. They also have showering facilities for them.

        We spent one New Year's Eve preparing and serving dinner to them. It makes you realise how lucky you are.
         
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          In a similar spirit to what @Sandy Ground has posted and the sentiment of thinking of others that @wiseowl has very clearly stated this shows how you also need to remember to have the right ideals behind your thoughts.

          It's rather lengthy poem that was written in the Victorian era and helped the author to start a lot of reform charities and good works. I've performed it on stage (at school) but it's really hard work to do it properly. I had to read it but my father could perform it straight from memory - but he had lived in the era, and the area, it portrays.

          I've posted this on GC in the past but I think it can bear a repeat. When it was first written it prompted a number of two or four line rude parodies of it and one of them was quite common when I was a child.


          Christmas Day In The Workhouse
          by George R Sims

          It is Christmas Day in the Workhouse, and the cold bare walls are bright
          With garlands of green and holly, and the place is a pleasant sight:
          For with clear-washed hands and faces in a long and hungry line
          The paupers sit at the tables, for this is the hour they dine.

          And the guardians and their ladies, although the wind is east,
          Have come in their furs and wrappers, to watch their charges feast:
          To smile and be condescending, put puddings on pauper plates,
          To be hosts at the workhouse banquet they’ve paid for – with the rates.

          Oh, the paupers are meek and lowly with their 'Thank'ee kindly, mum's';
          So long as they fill their stomachs, what matters it whence it comes?
          But one of the old men mutters, and pushes his plate aside:
          'Great God!' he cries; 'but it chokes me! For this is the day she died.'

          The guardians gazed in horror, the master's face went white;
          'Did a pauper refuse his pudding?' 'Could their ears believe aright?'
          Then the ladies clutched their husbands, thinking the man might die
          Struck by a bolt, or something, by the outraged One on high.

          But the pauper sat for a moment, then rose 'mid a silence grim,
          For the others has ceased to chatter, and trembled every limb.
          He looked at the guardian's ladies, then, eyeing their lords, he said,
          'I eat not the food of villains whose hands are foul and red:

          'Whose victims cry for vengeance from their dank, unhallowed graves.'
          'He's drunk!' said the workhouse master. 'Or else he's mad, and raves.'
          'Not drunk or mad,' cried the pauper, 'But only a hunted beast,
          Who, torn by the hounds and mangled, declines the vulture's feast.

          I care not a curse for the guardians, and I won't be dragged away.
          Just let me have the fit out, it's only Christmas Day
          That the black past comes to goad me, and prey my burning brain;
          I'll tell you the rest in a whisper, - I swear I won't shout again.

          'Keep your hands off me, curse you! Hear me right out to the end.
          You come here to see how the paupers the season of Christmas spend.
          You come here to watch us feeding, as they watch the captured beast.
          Hear why a penniless pauper spits on your paltry feast.

          'Do you think I will take your bounty, and let you smile and think
          You're doing a noble action with the parish's meat and drink?
          Where is my wife, you traitors - the poor old wife you slew?
          Yes, by the God above us, my Nance was killed by you!

          'Last winter my wife lay dying, starved in a filthy den;
          I had never been to the parish, -I came to the parish then.
          I swallowed my pride in coming, for, ere the ruin came,
          I held up my head as a trader, and I bore a spotless name.

          'I came to the parish, craving bread for a starving wife,
          Bread for a woman who'd loved me through fifty years of my life;
          And what do you think they told me, mocking my awful grief?
          That "the House" was open to us, but they wouldn't give "out relief".

          I slunk to the filthy alley - 'Twas a cold, raw Christmas eve -
          And the bakers' shops were open, tempting a man to thieve;
          But I clenched my fists together, holding my head awry,
          So I came home empty-handed, and mournfully told her why.

          Then I told her "the House" was open; she had heard of the ways of that,
          For her bloodless cheeks went crimson, and up in her rags she sat,
          Crying, "Bide the Christmas here, John, we've never had one apart;
          I think I can bear the hunger, - the other would break my heart."

          'All through that eve I watched her, holding her hand in mine,
          Praying the Lord, and weeping, till my lips were salt as brine.
          I asked her once if she hungered and as she answered "No,"
          The moon shone in at the window, set in a wreath of snow

          'Then the room was bathed in glory, and I saw in my darling's eyes
          The far-away look of wonder that comes when the spirit flies;
          And her lips were parched and parted, and her reason came and went,
          For she raved of her home in Devon, where her happiest days were spent.

          And the accents, long forgotten, came back to the tongue once more,
          For she talked like the country lassie I woo'd by the Devon shore.
          Then she rose to her feet and trembled, and fell on the rags and moaned,
          And, "Give me a crust - I'm famished - for the love of God!" she groaned.

          I rushed from the room like a madman, and flew to the workhouse gate,
          Crying "Food for a dying woman!" And came the answer, "Too late."
          They drove me away with curses; then I fought with a dog in the street,
          And tore from the mongrel's clutches a crust he was trying to eat.

          'Back, through the filthy by-lanes! Back, through the trampled slush!
          Up to the crazy garret, wrapped in an awful hush.
          My heart sank down at the threshold, and I paused with a sudden thrill,
          For there in the silv'ry moonlight my Nancy lay, cold and still.

          'Up to the blackened ceiling the sunken eyes were cast -
          I knew on those lips all bloodless my name had been the last;
          She'd called for her absent husband - O God! had I but known! -
          Had called in vain and in anguish, had died in that den - alone.

          'Yes, there in a land of plenty, lay a loving woman dead,
          Cruelly starved and murdered, for a loaf of parish bread.
          At yonder gate, last Christmas I craved for a human life.
          You, who would feast us paupers, What of my murdered wife!

          'There, get ye gone to your dinners; Don't mind me in the least;
          Think of your happy paupers eating your Christmas feast;
          And when you recount their blessings, in your smug parochial way,
          Say what you did for me, too, Only last Christmas Day.'
           
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            Good morning @Sandy Ground and @shiney my good friends and thank you for your kind and caring comments they are very much appreciated,both sets of lyrics are most apt and wonderful to read:smile:

            I have just returned and to see people partly covered in white frost ,well what can I say,we have of late seen 2 pass away in the high street as people walked passed them all day,and didn't bother to see if they were OK:dunno:

            It just makes yours truly so angry at times;)
             
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              We used to have the 'god bus' as it was known as locally. It was an old double decker bus that had been bought by or given to a church group. A group of vicars or nuns or whatever their title was staffed it. Anyone could get on the god bus for a cuppa or a chat, a bite to eat or just a rest. It used to turn up down town and just park up on am evening. When I was a young man about town I would see it still there at nightclub kicking out time, so I presume it stayed all night.

              I haven't seen the god bus for a long time unfortunately so I don't know if it still exists.
               
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                That poem is, oh, so true, Shiney.

                Reading a history of Stonesfield at the moment. People would be on the verge of death before they would relinquish everything and go into the workhouse. Once you were in there, there was no hope. :(
                 
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                  We have a SOS bus that serves the same purpose:smile:

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                    The towns/villages around here don't have a problem with homeless people, but there is in the big citys which i do not go to
                    Keep up the good work Woo :dbgrtmb:
                     
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                      Bet there are if you knew where to look Jifster, not always obvious. You should see the number of cars and campervans in the lay bys regularly around here.
                       
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                        How does one distinguish between the genuinely down on their luck, and the lying fraudulent scroungers?

                        When I first moved to Sheffield, a young lad begged a cigarette off me. He looked so thin and ill and in the brief conversation that followed, he indicated without actually begging, that he hadn't eaten at all that day, and was starving. I gave him a few quid to get some food and a drink.

                        I saw him again several more times, and each time took pity and gave him a small amount of money and a cigarette. Each time it was enough money to at least get a pasty and a drink.

                        Then one night the wife and I went on a night out. As a rare treat we went to the most expensive and trendy club in town. Guess who was in there. Only this time dressed in expensive looking designer clothes and holding an expensive bottle of trendy beer, and not looking the least bit ill.

                        Next time I saw him, once again looking convincingly ill and poor, and once again appealing to my sympathetic nature, he seemed surprised when I threatened him with violence if I was to see him scrounging again. He stopped looking surprised when I told him that I'd been in the club at the weekend and had seen him. He never tried to scrounge off me again.

                        Then there's a bloke who lives over the road from me. He's unemployed not through bad luck but through laziness. He lives with his brother who pays for pretty much everything. The chap (the scrounger, not his brother) once boasted to me openly that he goes to the food bank so he can spend his dole on whatever he wants.

                        I know these people are the minority. Most people who appear to be skint and stuck genuinely are. But some do abuse people's better nature.
                         
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                          Just received an email from the homeless charity that we work with.

                          "Thanks to our volunteers and supporters, no-one in ...... had to sleep rough this Christmas,"
                           
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                            Not seen any of the homeless around here begging, not even considered it when I have been skint, there's always some way of making money legitimately.

                            However there is a foreign bloke selling the big issue that isn't homeless, you can tell from looking at someone's face on a frosty morning if they've spent the night without shelter :th scifD36:
                             
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                              Its easy its the ones sleeping in shop doorways when its minus 7 degrees there are a lot of homeless that still have a little of their pride left and they would make sure that you didn't see them,so because you can't see them it doesen't mean that they are not there;)
                               
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                                A few years back we used to see car/campers in lay-bys but not now but they may be in the big towns
                                 
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