Westminster today.

But if a government makes special laws specifically in relation to a particular group or section of society, are they not both A, playing into the hands of the racists by drawing attention to them, and almost validating their motives for them and B, further propagating hate and distrust by showing others outside of the group that the group gets special treatment.

 

@clueless1 this is an editorial in today's paper - essentially agreeing with all you've said and you can see who is pushing for M103 to outlaw Islamophobia - PC gone wild

Liberals need to learn Islamophobia is a loaded term

and

Another Montreal imam accused of hate speech

 

Is Islamophobia different to racism?

 

If I insult a Muslim or a Jew on purpose, for no reason other than that they are a Muslim or a Jew, is that worse than if I insult a Sikh or a Buddhist for no reason other than that they are Sikh or Buddhist?

Is someone of one faith or culture more or less important than someone from another?

What about members of the traveling community, or gypsies? I remember someone saying very derogatory things about that group on here and while ago. I remember I defended that group by challenging the views of the member that judged the whole group, and I remember being berated for it and told that hatred or distrust of that group was justified and I was just being awkward and argumentative for defending that group. Yet here we are. One group should be given special treatment in a positive way just for what they believe, another group is fair game for criticism for what they believe. Sounds like prejudice to me.

 

I do agree that there needs to be a way to "categorize" isms and phobias so as to be able to look for means of stopping them from escalating to violence.

We have hate crime legislation in place that covers everybody but this does not seem adequate for one group. There is also wording in this proposed bill that could possibly lead to sharia law becoming recognized here and that is not, definitely not, what polls say the majority of Canadians want. We shall see...

 

Then either the existing law is not enforced adequately, or that one group is either over sensitive or provocative when compared to other groups. Or perhaps a bit of both.

 

Travellers? Ah, yes I believe you mean transients? Well, we don't have any issues there. My family is so mixed up, we look like the world should. People of all different colouring living happily as a family.

EDIT: forgot to mention that recorded hate crimes against Muslim people is less than 10% of the amount of anti-Semitism going on here. And I don't understand why either one is happening. Muslims here register complaints about every perceived slight including one fellow thinking a person who was smoking outside purposely directed his smoke near them ... I'm sure he is scarred for life... get me my fainting couch ...

 

It was good to see today that nothing was going to stop things going on as normal.
Why do they make these silly statements, obviously things will not be normal.

I mean Westminster bridge was shut for most of the day, the police were crawling around on their hands and knees, Parliament were making bold statement like, "We are not afraid", neither would I be with all those body guards and bullet proof cars.

Of course things are not as normal, but by making such a big point of keeping on saying that it is they are looking pretty stupid in my opinion.

 

I heard what you say, and mostly agree. The only reservation I have is that the strategy doesn't work. More people are growing suspicious of Muslims and more Muslims are growing suspicious of everyone else.

Therefore whole the strategy might seem like a good thing to try, it's been tried, the evidence speaks for itself that it hasn't worked.

The only way to promote equality is to trattoria all people as equal. That means no favourable treatment for any one group.

 

So I am on a par with ISIS, the IRA, the Basque Seperatists, the Bahna Meinhoff gang and all other terrorists?

 

Trouble is a fair amount of people seem to have their head stuck up there.
And until we start locking up those that are on the "list", lets face it you dont get on the "list" for no real reason, this kind of thing is going to keep on happening.

We are breeding the sods.