Weight loss diet experience

That's the key to weight loss, beer contains far more calories than dry wine, the more dry wine you drink in lieu of beer, the healthier you'll be, plus I seem to recall that red wine is good for the heart, so drink that rather than white wine.

 

Sorry to have to dispel that myth but my old bosses brother was an alcoholic and yes he was as skinny as a skeleton due to living on just drink and no food but in the end every tooth in his head was rotten because of all the sugar he consumed and ended up blind in one eye and jobless after he had a stroke due to all the drinking he did

 

I lost a 4 stone by counting calories. I set an allowance based on how much I needed to function and how much I wanted to lose. 16oz of extra weight takes cutting 3,500 calories out of your diet. If I wanted a beer then I counted the caloriesas part of my allowance.

I didn't care about vitamens or other electrolytes because if my diet isn't providing those I needed, I could take a little pill. It is not like you plan on dieting the rest of your life. When you get down where you want to be, then you can worry about nutrition.

I've heard about and/or tried many diets and none worked as well as simple calorie counting. Pub time meant skippng something else.

Simple

 

Not really.

See, estimates based on my lifestyle, age and size mean I need approx 90 grams of protein per day. I've seen what happens if you become deficient in protein. I nearly died.

But 90 grams of protein is already 360 kcals.

But it's still not that simple. There's no food that I'm aware of that is 100% protein (that includes expensive protein powders). So you look for food that has the highest ratio of protein to other macros. Meat scores well there, especially chicken and fish which are both quite lean. They are approx 27% protein. Let's round it to 25% to make the sums easier.

If I need 90 grams of protein, which is 360 calories, but the most protein rich food I can find only has 1 part in 4 as protein, then I need to consume 4 times the 360 'protein cals' to get my 90 grams of protein. 4 x 360 is 1440 kcals. My allowance to lose 1lb per week is 1550 kcals, which means if I hit my protein target, I have only 110 kcals to play with. It so happens that that's easy. 110 kcals is a surprisingly large amount of leafy veg, as well as some root veg like raddish or carrots. But it leaves no room for starches, so bread, pasta, rice are all out.

But again there's the problem. If ones digestive tract has evolved for the classic food pyramid, which calls for roughly one third of your diet to be starches, then suddenly you fill it with loads of meat, and loads of vegetable sugars, but no starches for the friendly gut bacteria to eat, then you end up with a whole new ecology in there. That might result in simple minor annoyances like a bit of flatulence, which to be honest, being a disgusting male, I'm always proud of. But it can also result in more serious complaints like persistent abdominal pains and cramps, nausea, lethargy, or worse things.

 

No problem with weight gain . My old ties still fit me perfectly .

 

Tofu. Their site recommends 46g per day for a woman and 56 for a man.

 

Have you consulted a dietician?

 

This is the problem with the kind of utterly useless very broad guidelines that some so called experts publish.

50g per day of protein is perfectly enough for an average person living and average life whatever one of those is.

Throw into the mix regular very hard physical training, with the wear and tear on muscles that that entails, and 50g simply isn't even enough to keep up with basic maintenance so you'd gradually just drop to bits.

 

maybe your only avenue is to give up martial arts and lay around eating melba toast and marmalite or whatever that stuff is called

Drinking a glass of water before a meal will help you somewhat because it makes you feel full and perhaps you won't eat so much?

Sorry out of options as pretty near everything doesn't work for you. That is sad.

 

Wow, wonder what your diet was that landed you up in hospital ?
Sounds like you took your dieting to extremes.

I do not know your age, weight and height, but for you to loose 1lbs/week on 1550kc suggests to me you are not very overweight, possibly still having a BMI of under 25 ?

Regarding your 90gram of protein, its not a figure /requirement I am aware of, but as you point out going on your assumed basis that would mean you need 1440kc in just protein alone ??

I would suggest that for a normal person thats clearly wrong and that the 90 grams you mention is meant to be 90g of steak or similar meat or fish etc.

Who told you 90g had to be 100% pure protein rather than 90g of meat/fish ? or is it your interpretion of what you were told ?

The old saying if in doubt, ask and ask again until you are 100% clear on the correct instruction.

I'm no dietician etc, but your tale is close to my heart at the moment, as that I have had to look at reducing my intake a little more seriously as have gone too much over weight recently and need to come down.

 

And you wonder why I don't eat meat?

 

Just had a look on the web and this link gives a very clear guide to ones protein needs and where it can be obtained from.

Basically any normal food plan will provide all you need, even at a reduced daily intake of 1550kc

Protein: Are you getting enough?

 

EDITED SO THERE IS NO MISINTERPRETATION OF MY REPLY:
All I can say is that I hope you find a plan that works for you. You would not have weight problems in the first place if your calculations of your daily requirements were correct.

Just MHO.

So abandon all of your objections about just plain cutting down.

I got overweight from eating from every food group in which I overindulged so I cut back on my intake and for the short term abused every nutritional guide there is. If I had to do without, I was going to try to enjoy the intake I allowed myself.

I am now only in my 60's and find that my bathroom weigh scales tell the truth and the rest is up to me.

Your calculations obviuosly suck if your sum of intake makes you fat, or when reversed makes you ill.

We, who offered advice, have been there and done it. We speak from experience. Really. I lost 35%of my body weight by eating less. And now that I am older, I appreciate not being obese because I can perform moderate (RCAF XBX) exercises. I feel fit and and physically happy.

Or, on the other hand, you may have handicaps that we don't know about. Maybe you have a gastro flaw that hasn't been diagnosed.

Talk to a doctor? Or a dietician?
That's it.

 

Sorry, I don't understand this.