Perennial flowers for border

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    In a narrow border like that it's best to have plants that don't get too big. There are a lot of Heucheras that don't grow too big and their leaves come in a large variety of colours. The flower spikes tend to grow straight up so give a change of height and colour during Spring/Summer/Autumn.

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    Or something like astrantia which comes in different colours and has an upright growth.

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      Good evening all my friends and many thanks for all your valuable and friendly suggestions I would prefer something tall and as this border is in the sun all day and will be very dry I have to bear this in mind as it really is a sun trap ,you have indeed given me a lot to think about:smile::blue thumb:
       
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        How about something like Verbascum Chaixii as it prefers full sun, drought tolerant, flowers from early June until September. Books say it grows about a metre tall but all ours grow a lot taller.

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        Verbena bonariensis, also likes hot dry conditions, grows up to about 7ft flowers through Summer to late Autumn
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        If you want really tall you could have Thalictrum aquilegifolium 'Elin'. Most Thalictrums grow to 4ft - 5ft high but Elin doubles that (although they only say 8ft in the books) Summer flowering

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        Then there's Phlomis fruticosa (Jerusalem sage) which flowers from late May through to July. It also likes hot dry positions

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        Of course, these all grow taller in Shineyland than the books tell you but that's because we talk to them. :snork: Ignore the bit of bindweed I've just spotted in the picture :hate-shocked:
         
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          If you want REALLY tall how about Cephalaria Gigantea. Only grows a mere 8 or 9ft here:) upload_2017-3-31_11-48-7.jpeg
          Maybe there is a taller growing hardy herbaceous plant but I don't know it, tallest I have and that's for certain. Probably @shiney it grows 12 ft with you:)? Just as an aside Shiney, is your Verbena able to stay out through winter with you? i grow it but have to lift it and keep it in the unheated greenhouse over winter and take cuttings as insurance.
           
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            I agree that the border looks very narrow. I would widen it. It's nice and long so you can probably have something in flower in every month of the year. That would be my aim.

            I'm a big fan of Verbena Bonariensis too as it has such a long flowering period. I have known it start as early as April and go on as late as December depending on how cold it's been. For me in Sussex I loose some in winter but there are always a few that make it through the winter, including this winter which has been cold for us. There are always seedlings though so no need for me to take cuttings.
             
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              @silu our Cephalaria Gigantea don't grow more than 10ft high but I love the flowers. They are such a delicate cream colour.

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              Our Verbena always survive the winter and spread themselves around quite easily in the rough dry areas such as the 9" edges between the lawn and the patio. They don't seem to like the well composted beds. They do seed like mad in those edges.

              All our flowers that I've mentioned are loved by the bees and the butterflies also like the Verbena.
               
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                Agree @shiney re verbena I think it's more winter wet that they don't like rather than just it being cold. Mine do self seed but once up and doing don't usually make it throught the winter unless I lift them. Also absolutely agree re Cepharlaria. Superb for giving height, great leaves, not a thug and doesn't need staking :yes: which I loath. My particular plants flower are a little more yellow than your photos. Mine flower a sort of Lurpak butter yellow!
                I've been selling big chunks of it for £5 which is pretty good value for money when garden centres sell it if you are lucky to find it for £5.99 per 9cm pot.....ie something you could put in your eye! It has huge roots which always seem to break when you dig it up but it doesn't seem to mind, just doesn't grow quite so tall for the 1st year after transplantation.
                There are so many great herbaceous plants which aren't readily available so many people don't even know they exist and get stuck with those plants which don't take up much room in the garden centres!
                 
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                  @silu interesting that you should say that. Those are usually a lemon yellow here. I wonder if the colour changes due to the climate being colder?:dunno:
                   
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                  Maybe @Sandy Ground or it's got to do with the PH perhaps.
                   
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                    Thanks @shiney, mine is sort of like this, you live and learn:). Whatever they are all so pretty, one of my favourites.
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                      Good afternoon I decided to dig up all my Sedums divide them and plant them in my small border :smile:

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                        Between the gaps in the Sedumns, I'd plant a few perennials that flower at different times of the year so that there's always a splash of colour.

                        @wiseowl - what is the flowering period of your Sedums?
                         
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                          Hi @Mowerman my sedums flower about the end of August until end of October:smile:
                           
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                            One of the Bi Product of Sedum, is when you cut back the old dry stuff it makes great Kindling for a log burner, and sounds fun as cracks. The Ash makes good compost when applied to the Garden, or added in your Compost.
                             
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