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    Cleared this small area under the Willow tree over past few days and wondering what I should do with it now :snorky: :scratch:. The Bluebells I put in about 5 days ago. I plan to paint the wall before planting anything else. Anyone got an inspiration for me please:) IMG_20170407_1421576_rewind.jpg
     
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      How about some Lily of the Valley, Helibores, Bugle, small cyclamen, or Bergenia are just a few I would go for..
       
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      Maybe a Libertia to soften the area.?:coffee::snorky:
       
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      Thanks for the replies :). I forgot to say there is one Lilly of the Valley planted, but it has only just started to poke through the soil, so not very visible.

      I was thinking about placing the mini pond there?? The Willow will grow and cover that area. I was going to cut it back to allow the light in and so I could see the flowers, but if I put the pond there I would let it be. Might be a problem when the tree sheds its leaves, but I could put some netting over the pond then.
       
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      Even netted, it's not a terribly good idea to put a pond under a deciduous tree, especially a willow. The leaves contain aspirin, so I doubt that any plants or wildlife would thrive. It'll be pretty dry under there, too, so what about a tough but pretty ground cover like Vinca minor?
       
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          I think it all depends on the size of the pond as my Acer Brilliantissimum nearly overhangs my Wildlife pond, with a Jasmine/Clematis Hedge running along one side, Ferns, Astible's, etc in the Bog Garden, 8 or 9 Climbing Roses overhanging immediately on the West Bank, and deciduous plants overhanging on the South Bank. I have an annual wade in Chest Waders to clean out the pond but there's always a sediment of mud/rotting leaves etc on the bottom. Okay, your pond is smaller but if you net it then, in my opinion, it will be okay. I would doubt, if you remembered to keep an eye on the pond, that you would get enough buildup of leaves to raise the toxicity in the water.:dunno::snorky:
           
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          The "pond' is about 2ft long, so tiny. If any leaves did fall in I can easy fish them out. At moment I don't have another place that I can use that is mainly in shade.
           
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            It's be fine then, lucious. So leaves falling onto it won't be problem, although if the tree falls onto it you might have a problem!!:dunno::heehee: Are you going to be able to manage to sink the plastic box into the ground so as to give easy access for Frogs etc?? It might help if you know someone who already has some Tadpoles in their pond and are able and willing to give you some. I'd send you some but stamps won't stick onto Tadpoles and I can never catch a Frog to stick a 1st Class stamp on it.:doh::dunno::heehee:
             
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            Mini pond is set up but not finished :). Need more oxygenator weed and a marginal in a pot. Sited it on patio slabs with rocks for access. Wall foundations prevent sinking it into ground. I've set it up at a slight angle so one end of box is lower thus creating a natural shallow end and deeper end. Put more rocks inside box to create exit. No idea where to accquire Frogs spawn or Tadpoles from. Maybe Froggies will find the pond???
             
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            And then again maybe not, lucius.:heehee: I think it will need a lot of attraction for a Frog to decide to use it as a permanent home when there's probably a lot of more natural harbours around.:dunno:
             
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            Such as the septic tank soakaway perhaps :lunapic 130165696578242 5: :lunapic 130165696578242 5:. So what can I do to make more appealing to a Frog as a desirable residence??
             
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              First question, are there any signs of Frogs around your area?? I guess the best approach will be to make the pond as natural as possible so that a Frog will feel safe and able to get a reasonable food supply......not easy.:dunno: I think if you can get other things like insects like Water Boatmen [​IMG] to take up residence that will help attract Frogs.:snorky:
               
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              We saw Frogs in the garden a couple of years ago and also a most handsome Toad. One evening I opened the back door to find lots of baby Frogs sitting on the choir mat - so cute:wub2:. Haven't seen any recently though. Hedgehogs eat Frogs, so that may possibly be why or it might simply be because there is no home here for them at present.

              Bearing in mind that there is limited space what should I be aiming for to make my mini pond as natural as possible?. The sink I set up had insects move in within a week or so but not Water Boatman. Do these require particular plants? I was considering planting a marginal directly into the box but then thought it might get too invasive so decided a pot would work best ??
               
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              Just some plants around the pond to soften the straight lines and also give the visitors some cover.:coffee::snorky:
               
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