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  1. Loofah

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    If you were to practice in a specialist area of law, what would it be and why?

    I'm pondering a new qualification and have just realised there's a lot of areas I want to consider !
     
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      For me, it would have to be criminal law as it's the most interesting area. [​IMG]

      Career prospects after completing a qualification include:
      • parole/probation officer,
      • forensic scientist
      • criminologist
      • detective
      • criminal lawyer
      I love programmes like Sherlock Holmes, CSI and Ripper Street.

      Conveyancy and Probate are the least appealing :snooze:
       
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        Conveyancy is easy money! But yes, exceptionally dull. Criminal lawyer has appeal but although I like the idea I'm definitely not a forensic detail person.

        It's just something I'm thinking about, bit if a career shake up after 20 years in business contracting
         
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          All aspects of law are about a forensic attention to detail.
          Having successfully acted on my brothers behalf in a matter against his ex-wife (and solicitor and barrister) I have developed an interest in family law. It amazed me how well paid professionals made so many errors or allowed errors by others to get into their position statements/evidence packs.
           
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              I worked in criminal law in The States for over 10 years and loved it. English law was too old fashioned, stuffy and drawn out for me so went into human resources specialising in employment contracts specifically expatriate law. I did my own conveyancing in the UK, a real doddle, but am really fascinated by forensics.
               
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                For early retirement, go for EU law :thumbsup:
                 
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                  To be a successful solicitor you have to be prepared to spend much of your life on a golf course ...
                   
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                    I think, what matters most would be, what matters most to *you*!

                    If you are going to commit your time (money?) on a new qualification, you need to choose something that you feel passionately about/most interested in!

                    It could be, given your current experiences, that business law would be an ideal opportunity but you may have no interest in that at all!

                    What do you mean by "forensics"? Are you referring to the scientific field? Or, are you referring more simply to Rudyard Kipling's "six honest men": the who, what, why, where, when and how aspect of analysing data?

                    If it is the former - no issue; you simply call upon a scientific forensic "expert" to either confirm or deny your line of argument, depending on the scenario.
                    If it is the Kipling aspect ... you are going to need that mind set in order to take any qualification in law (or any other professional qualification). It is the basics of analysis no matter which profession you wish to enter/be successful in. I think you have that already :blue thumb:

                    It may well be that you would prefer to "experience" an element of "law" in practise before making up your mind? In which case, there are volunteering opportunities which may hone your interest. For example, you could volunteer some time to spend as a Magistrate (either criminal or family); you could volunteer to spend some time as a Special Constable (exposure to both criminal and domestic). Both would expose you to different elements within the broad terms of "law". Either would give you some experience, before committing yourself to any major career change/investment.

                    Ultimately, making any career change my advice, based on personal experience, would be this: the bottom line has to be that *you* must feel passionately about what you are going to do! Having an inkling may not be enough; if you feel strongly, that will be your chief motivator for those days when you feel it is so overwhelming you question why you took that road in the first place! Not met anyone who didn't have *those* days! ;)

                    I'm a firm believer that you can do whatever you make up your mind to do! Once you have discarded the bits you know you do *not* want to do ... the rest doesn't take long to fall into place ;)

                    Wishing you all the Best of British in finding your road :thumbsup:
                     
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                      Oh, just so my Rudyard comment makes sense, this is where it comes from:

                      I KEEP six honest serving-men
                      [​IMG] (They taught me all I knew);
                      Their names are What and Why and When
                      [​IMG] And How and Where and Who.
                      I send them over land and sea,
                      [​IMG] I send them east and west;
                      But after they have worked for me,
                      [​IMG] I give them all a rest.

                      I let them rest from nine till five,
                      [​IMG] For I am busy then,
                      As well as breakfast, lunch, and tea,
                      [​IMG] For they are hungry men.
                      But different folk have different views;
                      [​IMG]I know a person small—
                      She keeps ten million serving-men,
                      [​IMG]Who get no rest at all!

                      She sends'em abroad on her own affairs,
                      [​IMG] From the second she opens her eyes—
                      One million Hows, two million Wheres,
                      [​IMG]And seven million Whys!
                       
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                        A good walk spoilt?
                         
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                          I always thought Kipling took the poetic scansion for that from Lewis Carroll's "White Night's Song"

                          I'll tell thee everything I can;
                          There's little to relate.
                          I saw an aged, aged man,
                          A-sitting on a gate.
                          'Who are you, aged man?' I said.
                          'And how is it you live?'
                          And his answer trickled through my head
                          Like water through a sieve.

                          He said 'I look for butterflies
                          That sleep among the wheat;
                          I make them into mutton-pies,
                          And sell them in the street.
                          I sell them unto men,' he said,
                          'Who sail on stormy seas;
                          And that's the way I get my bread -
                          A trifle, if you please.'

                          But I was thinking of a plan
                          To dye one's whiskers green,
                          And always use so large a fan
                          That it could not be seen.
                          So, having no reply to give
                          To what the old man said,
                          I cried, 'Come, tell me how you live!'
                          And thumped him on the head.

                          His accents mild took up the tale;
                          He said, 'I go my ways,
                          And when I find a mountain-rill,
                          I set it in a blaze.
                          And thence they make a stuff they call
                          Rowland's Macassar Oil -
                          Yet twopence-halfpenny is all
                          They give me for my toil.'

                          But I was thinking of a way
                          To feed oneself on batter,
                          And so go on from day to day
                          Getting a little fatter.
                          I shook him well from side to side,
                          Until his face was blue;
                          'Come, tell me how you live,' I cried
                          'And what it is you do!'

                          He said, 'I hunt for haddocks' eyes
                          Among the heather bright,
                          And work them into waistcoat-buttons
                          In the silent night.
                          And these I do not sell for gold
                          Or coin of silvery shine,
                          But for a copper halfpenny,
                          And that will purchase nine.

                          'I sometimes dig for buttered rolls,
                          Or set limed twigs for crabs;
                          I sometimes search the grassy knolls
                          For wheels of hansom-cabs.
                          And that's the way' (he gave a wink)
                          'By which I get my wealth -
                          And very gladly will I drink
                          Your Honour's noble health.'

                          I heard him then, for I had just
                          Completed my design
                          To keep the Menai bridge from rust
                          By boiling it in wine.
                          I thanked him much for telling me
                          The way he got his wealth,
                          But chiefly for his wish that he
                          Might drink my noble health.

                          And now, if e'er by chance I put
                          My fingers into glue,
                          Or madly squeeze a right-hand foot
                          Into a left-hand shoe,
                          Or if I drop upon my toe
                          A very heavy weight,
                          I weep, for it reminds me so
                          Of that old man I used to know -
                          Whose look was mild, whose speech was slow,
                          Whose hair was whiter than the snow,
                          Whose face was very like a crow
                          With eyes, like cinders, all aglow,
                          Who seemed distracted with his woe,
                          Who rocked his body to and fro,
                          And muttered mumblingly and low,
                          As if his mouth were full of dough,
                          Who snorted like a buffalo -
                          That summer evening long ago.
                          A-sitting on a gate.
                           
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                            I've always had an interest in Consumer Law and, although not legally qualified, have handled dozens of cases successfully. Unfortunately I don't think it pays very well and all my work has been Pro Bono.

                            It requires attention to detail - as should all legal work. I've handled cases mainly in Small Claims and some in County Court with a couple of cases at Queens Bench Division (these last being against solicitors themselves).

                            The cut and thrust of the argument is fun but the sums involved are rarely high enough to warrant making a living out of it.
                             
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                              I studied business law and also the small claims court system including the filing of liens and other instruments of compensation or recovery. Consumer law I also studied because I had an interest in that as well. I passed with good grades in both disciplines and gained confidence which enabled me to represent people, also pro bono, who needed my help.

                              Business law was useful for me when I was a credit manager in the steel industry, I would work with many companies to help them through times of cash flow problems but if a company was just trying to screw mine, I would file papers to force receivership or force restitution.

                              I also studied and wrote my exams for window treatment specialist because I enjoyed the hobby and then landed up turning it into a business. All of my accounting background, legal knowledge etc helped me to run my business.

                              If I wasn't so ancient I would start studying family law. Hopefully soon they will allow papralegals to represent clients before tne courts with many issues instead of high priced lawyers. Been there and done that for myself and family members ... the courts do not like my aggressive tone and the other lawyers do not appreciate my dressing them down, however I do it in a respectful manner. And then they go to the loo to ....

                              To me family law would be tne most humane avenue... If one doesn't use it like a licence to print money!
                               
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                                Jokingly. "What's that?
                                 
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