Brexit - am I stupid or what?

No, Simon, it is not. Financial decisions taken by the EU in meetings where the UK is not permitted to vote has repercussions on our trading and financial

Which means you have not realised that the UK is one of the biggest participators in the Euro zone as we trade, import, export, have huge financial arrangements and services using the Euro within the EU but have no say. The EU chooses where and when the UK can take part in EU financial decisions although, as I pointed out earlier, we are one of the largest financial contributors and trading countries within the EU.

 

I must say that I've almost given up the will to live with all this! I've tried ploughing through the discussion but have decided it's just batting the same things backwards and forwards but just using different terminology each time. They're still opposing views put differently. It's the sort of discussion I think would go better over a pint.

 

Well, I think the Italians, Greeks, Spanish and Portugese might disagree with you as the first two countries were told of the financial penalties should they have a referendum. It's all on record
and it's there for you to follow and see.

I've already pointed that out, longk.

I don't think you will find a MP, of any political colour, who would not choke on their drink or place their hand on their heart and agree with that view..........well, not without trying not to smile.
All political organisations have declared polices and rules for their members etc but history has shown they use those rules in their own interests. As I said, in reality, members who want to leave the EU and invoke Article 50 will find that the EU will use every financial, political pressure and any other means to "persuade" those members not to...............hence the present situation.

 

Are you buying, Shiney????

 

Me too - I even have a large, framed photo of them on my living room wall

 

Not saying this is right, or wrong (especially given the source), but it seems to be quite a fair analysis to me.

MAGGIE PAGANO: EU must accept it needs to head to Specsavers for a new prescription | Daily Mail Online

 

As I said, I respect your point of view, Simon.

 

Looks like an expensive round to me if you're buying, Shiney.

Well, that's because this is a naturally friendly Forum where people really do respect each other and adhere the Rules and Protocols within even thinking of them. GC Admin try to keep a low profile, post in threads, however controversial, as members, and only step in on the rare occasion when things get a little heated. But the real reason for GC being as great as it is, is the actual members themselves.

 

I agree , but I'm fortunate to be involved in a lot of organisations/groups that have these discussions and are able to discuss them in congenial surroundings even though I don't imbibe.