Brexit -am I stupid or what

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  1. ARMANDII

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    See, you're just like pete, always sitting on the fence, longk:wallbanging::doh::heehee:

    Well, you're only wrong most of the time.:dunno::heehee:



    I, like FC, think May will survive tonight with maybe only just over a hundred MP's voting against her.......we'll see if the Bookies have got it right. Merkel is a politician who knows when to go after 13 years of being Chancellor. she'll go quietly, Macron is French Toast only done on one side:dunno::heehee:
     
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      We could March into Poland, down through Germany into Austria, cut around to Italy, then back up the French coast,
      Afterwards make our own laws and rules on them :-)
       
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        We could Jack, but only once the suitable risk assessments had been completed, and of course the relevant checks made to ensure that we were employing enough women, gay people, people of each nationality and of course transgender or non-gender identifying people. Oh, and speaking of transgender and non-gender identifying people, we would need to make sure that there was suitable toilet provision.

        Guns wouldn't be allowed - I believe they are not to be called guns anymore, but rather 'bangy-ouchy sticks' - they have the potential to wound or cause injury, and that sort of thing is only allowed on our city streets when the guns are being handled by the yoofs. Knives/bayonets are the same as guns.
         
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          She's won the confidence vote ...117 have NO confidence! I haven't got any confidence in her either! :biggrin:
           
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            Doubtful:dunno: It, unfortunately, doesn't change the maths if May decides to put her deal to the vote and she will, confidence vote win or not, lose the vote and there will be more Mayhem (sorry, couldn't resist the last bit):dunno::heehee:
             
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              Fat chance! To quote the BBC...............
              "Reacting to the vote result, Brexiteer Peter Bone told the BBC: "More than a third of the parliamentary party does not support her, she’ll have to consider her position.""

              Two thirds have voted their confidence - what makes his one third more important? Arrogant twonk!
               
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                She’s not my ‘colour’, but I feel sorry for May. I’m sure she’s doing her best, as she sees it. People sometimes bang on about MP’s pay, but you couldn’t pay me enough to take on her job.
                Backstabbing at every turn.
                 
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                  I agree, Freddy. She's got the Poisoned Chalice that nobody wants and it's impossible to get a deal that anyone will like, including me. I don't like the so called "backstop" that ties us to the EU unless the EU agrees we can leave. A unilateral option is the only way to go but the EU wants to keep the UK on a leash. I don't understand why May is still going down a road that she knows is a "no through road" and that her deal will not be passed.:wallbanging::dunno::coffee:
                   
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                    I thought only the Labour Party did that to MP's that don't agree with Corbin:dunno::heehee:
                     
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                    But what road isn’t a “no through road”? Seems to me, no matter what deal is presented, it wouldn’t get through.
                     
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                    I think Teresa May knew exactly what she was doing and what would happen right at the start of negotiations with the EU. I believe the agreement was just a red herring for her, and knowing she wouldn't get it past parliament went along with it to humour the EU, believing the only way we can exit is via a no deal. Let's face it, will we be that much worse off than with the deal?
                     
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                      I agree with you, Sheal. The effects of a "no deal" would last about 6 months while business sorted it all out and I would prefer that than being tied to the EU under a deal that leaves us unable to leave without the permission of the EU.
                      However, there is a little worm at the back of my mind questioning whether May is actually taking us down the road of a "no deal", knowing that her deal won't pass. but rather one of "No Brexit" knowing that Parliament would not want to agree to the No Deal:wallbanging::doh:.:dunno:
                       
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                        Which might, Freddy, I hate to say, detour us to a no brexit.:wallbanging:
                         
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                        I think if she hadn't agreed to a backstop that gave control to the EU as to whether or not the UK could leave that might have helped. Until we get an agreement with the EU, which is most unlikely, that we have that unilateral option then, you're right, there is no chance of a through road.:coffee:
                         
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                          There is that possibility of course. Would parliament be more inclined to except a No Deal though, rather than the deal that's on the table? They know there's no chance of further negotiation with the EU and the only way out now is through a No Deal. I can't believe that Teresa May (even though she was a remainer at the start, and possibly still is) would back track at this point for 'No Brexit'.
                           
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