Brexit -am I stupid or what

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    Apologies for the many minor errors, which I think i have amended, in my previous post but my fingers are not as agile as they were 7 months ago:dunno::wallbanging::heehee:
     
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        He actually said that he hopes the negotiations will become more "interesting":dunno::) The EU's official stance is to state that they will not renegotiate the present deal but are considering changing the wording of the non binding Political part................which is very kind of them:dunno::heehee:
        I think that we all, in Life, have experienced being in a discussion/argument/deal/joiing or leaving an organisation or businesses where being faced with conditions that only suited the other party who was aslo refusing with an air of superiority which only left the choice of giving in or..........walking away:coffee: Well, as the EU officials now busying changing leadership and other posts and then going on holiday perhaps it's time for a unconventional person to take unconventional actions to break the deadlock.:coffee::)
         
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          So Brexiter BoJo will be Prime Minister tomorrow and he still doesn’t have a plan for leaving the EU! It is mind boggling.
           
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            Have you failed to notice that none of our Politicdal leaders have had a plan over the last two and half years that anyone but the EU would agree to, Redwing:dunno::scratch::)
            The plan as requested in the referendum was/is to leave the EU. In any negotiation there is an aim motiviating the negotiation whether it be Boris or any oher leader who wishs to respect the result of the referendum. So the plan is, as openly stated by Boris, to take the UK out of the EU despite their refusal to renegotiate a deal that nobody but the EU will agree to amd like:wallbanging: So the "plan" is to negotiate a new fair deal, step by step, as was done previously but where the EU's stance of the EU saying NO to every request of the UK Government only resulted ina deal that was good for the EU.
             
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              Of course I haven’t failed to notice none of our political leaders have had a plan. That’s why the whole saga is so mind bogglingly stupid. How can such a complicated agenda be reduced to a simple yes, no answer? I blame Cameron. But what really worries me now is that BOJO will give up or negotiate away Scotland and Northern Ireland. As Gordon Brown has
              said BoJo could be the last UK prime minister.....all very very sad IMO.:sad:
               
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                No fan of Boris, but I hope he can sort things out, I doubt it, because its out of his hands really, he will only be PM, not Parliament.

                But maybe we should go for no deal, at least it would get the whole thing settled and we could start hoping to build new bridges.

                I cant help it, I just hate the EU:frown:
                Always have done from day one.
                 
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                  Until he can give an articulate coherent and understandable speech we will get nowhere.
                  Another PM that the public couldn't vote for.:frown:
                   
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                    Gordon who?? :ideaIPB: Sorry, now I rember, he was the man always spending more time squabbling with that man Tony Blair was also failed, like Mr Brown, to deliver what they so promised. I think the only place that Gordon Brown has respect is in Scotland.

                    Why would you do that? i have no time for Cameron ,but he only succumbed to the more than 10 year old pressure that was put on previous PM's. He did so in the belief that the man on the street would vote to stay in the EU, whcih shows how Politicans are continually out of touch of the real world and the public.

                    Scotland in in the grip of a extreme nationalistic government who's only aim is to leave the UK. Should they do so then they would automatically leave the EU without even negotiationg a deal as we are trying to do. Of course the SNP has been scurrying back and forth meeting with the EU who will be a lot more co-operative with them than us................so the EU is already negotiating with a country within the UK, without the permission of the rest of the UK.........one law for one and one law for another..
                    Northern ireland is still without a proper goverment in Stormant and is likely to be in that state for a while, so, to be honest, their fate and future is in their hands not ours.
                     
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                      Only good thing Gordon Brown did was keep us out of the Euro, when teflon Tony wanted to sell us down the river.
                       
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                        Well, despite his wanderings he took a firm stance in his previous EU negotiations and had the
                        firmness of mind to resign when May and he couldn't agree about the conditions May was willinlg to agree to. To be honest, he won't be negotiationg solely with but will have a team who want the same result as he does. I remember a guy who, years ago, palyed the Buffoon and Cuort Jester and becausse of that was'nt treated with respect in the Office. When there was a Company chess tournament he ws allowed to play as a joke.. He won every game and wiped the board rurthlessly, a true wolf in sheeps clothing.............a true story. I'm always reminded of the guy when I see Boris. As I have said, I'm not a fan of Boris but I'm aware that he didn't get up the ladder politically by being a Court Jester.:dunno::coffee::heehee:
                         
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                          See, there you go again, Pete, always sitting on the fence:dunno::wallbanging::heehee::loll::lunapic 130165696578242 5:
                           
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                            I blame Thatcher, Blair, Brown, Cameron and May.
                             
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                              I blame the first man to leave his cave.:dunno::coffee:
                               
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