Brexit -am I stupid or what

I feel like I'm watching "Catch 22" when it comes to BREXIT............you remember that, don't you??? We're due to leave the EU on the 31 October this year and this Government is asking for a new deal, because Parliament is unable to approve the EU recognised one sided deal or agree to any other deal, and renegotiation with the EU.
What's "Catch 22" about this all, to me, is the EU is saying it won't renegotiate a new deal and only recognises that deal "agreed" with May when she was Prime Minister. The obvious problem with that, as the EU is well aware, is that Parliament voted against that deal three times and yet the deal that the EU says is the only one that they recognise The EU is basically saying that
they will only accept the deal, agreed with May, while knowing that such a deal had to be ratified first by all the parties in Parliament before before it was an agreed deal
. That to me is the attitude of a party that will only agree to an agreement that has it's own interests first and not the other party........which is a one sided deal.
So here we are, going around and around, with the EU saying "a deal is a deal" when they knew full well that the deal was not a deal until ratified by all the parties in Parliament. Just to add to the "Alice in Wonderland" crazinesss is a Parliament that can't agree to any deal proposed while blaming everyone else bar themselves, even though it's their job to deliver the Referendum result of the UK wanting to leave the EU.
May got criticised, undermined, attacked, for taking up the poisoned chalice of taking the UK out of the EU. The EU stlubbornly has constantly refused to accept any conditions asked for by the UK Government insisting that "Their way was the only way by consistly saying "No" consistently through the "negotiations", while every UK Political Party has undermined May while refusing to ratify any deal that meant leaving the EU totally ignoring toi result of the Referendum and not having the courage to put forward any plan to recognise the result of the Referendum.
So here we are again with a Government that has at least promised to leave the EU by the 31 October 2019 while we have still a Parliament wearing the Mad Hatter's Hat refusing to ratify any deal and fearful of leaving the EU, still undermining a Government that at the very least
has a clear target of leaving the EU........and the EU insisting that it will only approve the deal that has been voted down by the Uk 3 times.

 

'Twas destined to be!

Boris knew this before taking up his new post so lost no time in focusing people's minds to the reality of no deal. The EU are presumably more confident of their position as a blok than of ours as an outgoing embarrassment and are forcing the no deal option; they could easily open negotiations given our parliamentary reality but in honesty why would they when they see the conduct and performance of that mob over the last years?
Both sides are forcing the issue to get on with political agendas outside of Brexit as well they should.

 

Fine - no deal it is then, so let's get on with it as there is no point waiting until October if nothing is going to change.

 

At the present moment and present hardline of Boris and his Cabinet I don't think that the EU is, to it's dismay, for the first time in 3 years, in the Driving Seat or able to allow anything. With the Government now placing the "Gun" of declaring that BREXIT will happen, "Do or Die", by 31st October on the negotianting table they have been given the shock of not having a opponent who thinks the EU has all the power and has to agree to every condition the EU demands.
The SNP, Labour, and all the MP's who want to disregard the result of the Referendum are now running around trying to make alliances, pacts, to stop BREXIT. Mr McDonald of the Labour Party has even gone over the head of Corbyn by suggesting that Labour would back the SNP and let them have a second Indepence Referendum.............there's a lot of panic going on out there.

 

There's one or two more of the Labour extremists who think they're in charge of the Labour Party, pete, while Corbyn is under the illusion that he is

 

Good one @Scrungee

 

So true, Scrungee.........both turn my stomach McDonald.......McDonell, my apologies to both of them as the "a" probably wouldn't want to be linked with the "e".......but I wouldn't vouch(er) for it

 

Neither have they!!

 

Well, believe me, Sian, different view point or not, your input and opinion is really important and needed.

Yes, it's true, Sian, the UK is the one that wants to leave the EU but not like that of a spoilt or wilful child. The EU the UK joined long ago was a completely different "animal" and we joined for the sole purpose of trade. You know as well as I do that the EU has become a political animal using it's "one size fits all" Euro currency and the massive debts incurred by it's member countries to stop any unhappy member leaving the "Club". The UK has always had an independent "attitude" by retaining the Sterling Pound as to enable it to do so, while willing to trade with all countries and above all keep it's sovereignty and ability to control it's borders.
But, you must recognise, the EU is now, above all else , a political "animal" intent in the long term to merge all it's members into a Federation controlled by an unelected Organisation which, at the moment, costs Millions or more by moving back and forth from Strasbourg and Brussels. That's what the UK wants to avoid, but over the decades we have become increasingly caught in the web and flood of Bureaucracy and Legislation that is seemingly designed to slowly lose our Sovereignty, and other members Sovereignty, and true ability to poliitcally run our own country.
If the Eu was still about trade then the UK would not have a problem, but the EU is no longer about trade it's about Politics. becoming a Federation, wanting to raise it's own Armed Force all of which would drawn from the resources of the members who have lost all their independence, political powers and Sovereignty........like it or not.

If only it were that simple The Backstop is regarded by the UK as a means, by the EU, of trapping it for an indefinite period within the EU still being subject to it's Legislation. The Backstop can only be ceased with the permission of the EU, we would virtually have no say in the matter and that is a decidely one sided, unfair condition that only serves one party......the EU.

Yes, you're right, it is. And with a little Good Will a fair BREXIT deal could be reached but the whole world has watched while the EU assumed the attitude of Alpha Dog during the "negotiations" and the UK was treated as an inferior who's suggestions for a fair deal were snubbed time and again. No UK political party regards the unratified deal that the EU
imposed on the UK as acceptable or fair. The fact that the EU has taken the view that the deal with May was a legal deal while knowing full well it had to be approved and ratified by Parliament, shows's it's determination to control the negotiations and show other EU members how they would be treated should they wish to leave.
We want to trade independently with the EU and the rest of the World, retain our own Sovereignty and Poltiical Independence, not become trapped and absorbed into a European Federation.
BREXIT, hopefully will happen (unless the result of the Referendum is ignored by, and people betrayed by, some UK Politicians with their own agendas and willingness to create unholy pacts and alliances......although the odds seem to be against them succeeding. Yes, there will be a upset to jobs and trade for several months..........but it will be on both sides and we have the tools to deal with all the imposed bureaucracy and tariffs..............all it needs is common sense and Good Will.
My apologies for the long post, but I think that "sound bite" explanations just make things more muddy.