Brexit -am I stupid or what

@Warwick lad - not so much a can of worms as a box of snakes.....

Surely that is too late though? Surely they should be getting shot of him now, ahead of any potential election. The problem there of course is who they would replace him with McDonnell? As @Warwick lad has suggested, the next GE is likely to be a blood bath anyway, so one has to wonder who will actually be in the party as an MP (and I suspect they will have very few MP's in parliament next time around)

 

I'm forced to use SKype or Zoom (new equivalent service) daily and communicate throughout the US and EU. It kind of gets things done but everything is so much more effective when face to face (and you can stand on their toes to make sure the point get across...)

Not enough time to replace him before an election and I think they're just building up to the removal; not enough pressure or will in the party to make such a change at this immediate point.

 

I get that face to face communication is better, but as these people care so much about the environment, surely internet based conferencing would be better? Skype is the basic - are you really telling me that Google couldn't arrange for participants to have 4k cameras, decent microphone etc in a room in their home? They care about the environment, mind.....

Face it, their jolly on private jets and super-yachts was just that - a jolly. To use that as a grandstand to rape the wallets of the likes of you and I is incredibly hypocritical.

 

If Labour get in, will I have to get rid of my private jet? I suppose I'll have to sack the butler as well

 

It's, obviously to us all, getting more and more like the goings on of a Alice in Wonderland version written by a person on LSD (which it appears most of our Mp'S are experienced with) as time go on. Those supporting the idea of a temporary Government are fighting amongst themselves as to who the Leader of a "United Government". The Liberals now say that they can't accept Corbyn but would accept any other suggestions, Labour don't want any othere Political Party to head it while McDonnell and co are probably trying to persuade Corbyn to resign so they can elect another leader...........only Corbyn refuses to step aside as he want to be Prime Minister........and there's not enough time for a Labour Party vote of "No Confidence" and a Leader election before 31st October. Suggestions of people like Ken Clarke (a multi-millionaire with great financial interest in Europe and a Remainer) and Harriet Harman (remainer) just shows that they have no desire for any deal to leave the EU while using the cover of not wanting a no deal BREXIT.
It appears that the UK Parliament, and it's members, is mentally blocked, and is running around in circles like a insane animal, forgetting all pretence at democracy, their responsibility to the people who voted them in, and any logical train of thought to take us out of the EU of any kind...........I think that they are proving themselves to fulfill the image that the Ordinary Man on the Street has of them...........Incompetent, self interested, out of contact with the UK population and unashamedly increasingly unable to support the idea of the global belief that the UK is a democratic nation. A Business would not employ anyone behaving in the mental state our MP's are...........and our MP's wouldn't join a Business unless they could be a Director of the Board. Historians will discuss this situation for decades or more and wonder how we allowed such people to get into political power no matter what Political power they "represent".
Hopefully, a General Election after BREXIT would give the voters at least the chance to express their real distaste of the Alice in Wonderland situations our self interested, incapable of decisions, MP's have put the UK in.

 

A caretaker gov't would simply offer up the 2nd referendum and be done with all the nonsense; it would cut through absolutely all arguments by either confirming Leave or reflecting a change of public desire and Remain. The next step would be written for them by the outcome and it would all be very simple. Boris can't do that because of his and the tories promises etc which is so very painful.

I feel sorry for Jo Swinson, she's in way over her head and her party have allowed her to be thrown to the wolves

JC is just a joke...

...and did you hear the name of the new leader of UKIP?! Dick Braine!! So apt. He'll be gone in less than 12 months too.

 

Then we leave immediately; rip the band aid time. Everyone had their say, confirmed by a second bite of the cherry and no-one can argue with it.

If the result is different, immediately repeal article 50 and pull back from the brink. Have an election and let the new gov't take it from there - it would be years before anything is attempted again despite all the hackneyed yelling that would undoubtedly ensue.

Caretaker gov't would have one tiny job that frankly no other party can manage and they'll be able to do it purely because they have no other agenda or manifesto to keep. Its, into No. 10 get this utter shambles put to bed and out the back door. Wouldn't even bother taking the time to feed the cat

 

I don't think it's that simple, Loofah. If you have a National Referendum then the whole purpose is to ask the population what they want and then ignore that result, because of the delaying tactics of those wanting to reverse the decision, then what's the point of asking the Nation in the first place.......that is undemocratic.
If we held a second Referendum what's to stop Parliament from ignoring it because our MP's, like now, don't like it...........and then, of course, we could have a third, fourth or fifth Referendum........and with the mental log jam in our present Parliament it's not a far fetched scenario.
The decision to leave the EU is not a sudden fit of pique by the UK but one of a long, irritated view that we were being entrapped in EU legislation designed to suck the UK into a political minded, but unelected, organisation while being treated as an awkward, rebellious member that we joined soley for trading purposes. Having another Referendum would only continue this insane saga whether it was a "Stay" or "Leave" because nobody in any of our so called Political Parties is capable of agreeing to any Brexit deal and vote it through. The EU's stance, whatever a 2nd Referendum result would be, is the one sided deal that they want and a refusal to renegoiate any other deal makes a 2nd Referendum irrelevant as would another extension

 

Why not, Loofah?? You hold a Referendum with the purpose of recognising and upholding the result.......othewise why bother?? I've been at many a business meeting and disagreed with the result but accepted the decision of that meeting.
Leave or stay, you have seen the pigheaded, self serving, personal financial agenda, political extremism of our political parties and individual MPs who are ignoring the result of the Referendum.........what makes you think they can suddenly unite and agree now if, for the last 3 years, they have been behaving like imbeciles who have, in reality, lost all ability to recognise any Referendum decision.???

 

Why are you picking on me?

signed
Larry

 

They're just being Catty, Shiney

 

Didn't Hitler start his spell as part of a caretaker government?

It amazes me the lengths that our politicians are willing to go to, essentially entirely disregarding democracy in plain sight. If this was happening in another country, our lot would be wringing their hands and condemning it. Hypocrites the lot of them.

Speaking of hypocrites, Harry and Meghan have taken another private jet flight - this time to Nice (895 miles approx), so 1790 miles return at 4 miles per gallon is another 447 gallons of fuel (fair to round it up to 450 assuming taxiing etc). I've also just realised my maths was out the in my last post....
so the trip to the Google thing was 600 gallons of fuel there and back, the trip to Ibiza was 850 gallons of fuel there and back, and this trip was 450 gallons of fuel there and back - total 1900 gallons of fuel in less than a month. That would fuel my car for almost 7.5 years

But hey, I am the bad one for driving a V8.