Brexit -am I stupid or what

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      Hiya Pete:thumbsup:
      It was more of a philosophical point really. I’m no great thinker, just a conclusion I’ve come to.
       
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        Well I think we can all agree on that.:smile:

        But that is life I guess.:smile:
         
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        Soooo Quote.."Corbyn rejects idea of a public vote on Johnson's Brexit deal"

        He's a contrary git that one...Maybe because he knows what the answer will be !!!!!
         
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          Corbyn, :lunapic 130165696578242 5::lunapic 130165696578242 5::lunapic 130165696578242 5:
           
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            Oiy He's the leader of the opposition show the twerp some respect..:biggrin:
             
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              DISCLAIMER - this may or may not be true ;)

              I have read twice now that the Labour Party are £650k in the red, and are worried that independent investigation into antisemitism in the party will bankrupt them; they are equally worried that they just don't have the cash to fight an election. It does not surprise me, as I am one of a few people that I know of who have ditched their union subs after a lot of years, and that alone has to be hurting their bank balance.
               
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                Interesting that a local Labour MP has decided not to put himself forward for re-election - citing wanting to spend more time with his family as the reason. The real reason is that he is in a constituency where 70% of the voters wanted to leave the EU - he has constantly voted against Brexit - and from the comments on his twitter page - he has lost all support. Better to jump rather than be pushed I suppose. He had a 'rock solid' Labour seat - but not anymore.

                Same as Bercow.

                I've just spent 50 quid on a nice selection of Rudbeckia and Echinacea - am I totally insane?
                 
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                  Huffington Post and some others:-

                  "A projected deficit in a new draft budget follows a major expansion of staff hires, the loss-making ‘LabourLive’ festival and a drop in membership.

                  Staff recruitment has had to be frozen at the party’s HQ, on top of separate plans for real terms pay cuts and pension changes, as the party desperately tries to cope with the shortfall."


                  Guardian August 2018:

                  "If Jeremy Corbyn were looking for a single example of his impact on British politics, then his party’s finances might be the best place to start. The party’s large membership, swollen since the 2015 leadership contest, has helped ensure that Labour is easily the richest political party in Britain."

                  Public Finance:-

                  "The Labour Party outspent its Conservative rivals considerably last year, according to the latest accounts published by the Electoral Commission.

                  Jeremy Corbyn’s opposition spent £46.3m in the year to 31 December 2018, the data released last week showed – nearly £10m more than the governing party (which spend £36.3m), figures published by the Electotal Commission last week revealed."

                  You can make statistics do anything :dunno:
                   
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                    Would they have been cheaper in Euros?
                     
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                    I did the same FC a good 20 or so years ago..Unions '(imho) are just a racket these days..After the company I worked for was privatised the unions were there all guns blazing..when every one confronted them we were told .."Take what they are offering"..which was a 50% cut in wages ,holidays and no sick pay.That did it for me..That's your Unions for you.
                     
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                        I used to be a shop steward, maybe 20 years ago. At one point the company wanted all workers to sign a new contract. I won’t go into the detail, but suffice to say it wasn’t for the benefit of the workforce. We had a mass meeting where it was proposed we wouldn’t sign. All the hands went up in agreement with this stance, unanimous. Straight after the meeting they all signed the new contract. ‘That’s the workforce for you’.
                         
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                          I've never been into unions, in fact I was put off them during the builders strike in the early 70s.
                          It kind of kicked the unions out of the construction industry all round.

                          But I do see a purpose for unions, but they dont stick to what they were created to do, they, instead of just looking after their members, want to meddle in politics.
                          Which kind of gives unions a bad name.
                           
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                            Aye, I've seen both sides of the coin too @Freddy - I recall a stalemate on a pay deal a number of years ago where the union had agreed a 5% rise, but the workforce decided to vote it down as they wanted more and a two year deal. By the time all was said and done, they ended up with 3.5% for that year as it was getting close to starting negotiations for the following year.
                             
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