Brexit -am I stupid or what

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    My local MP voted for the Letwin amendment. I've just sent him a stiff e-mail, advising that he should start to look for another job.
     
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      Sadly, I doubt he will even read it.
       
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        I continue to have my opinion of parliament confirmed.

        They've been banging on about getting a deal for years. They get it and had the chance to vote for the deal and deliberately pick further delay. The absurdity of these miserable sacks of skin is beyond description
         
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          They dont want a deal, they want remain, that's the only deal they will support.

          My simplistic view of the EU.
          They say there will be shortages if we leave, especially without a deal.

          Anyway, bought some HP sauce recently, seemed a bit bland, so next time I bought "Daddies" sauce, to me they both tasted the same.
          However, HP is now made in Holland and "Daddies" is made in Poland.
          Both labels state HP London????

          So, if they have done this to us regarding sauce you can only guess what they have done to us regarding other manufactured products, and still calling them British.
          It's even got a picture of the Houses of Parliament on the bottle.
          I guess that still sells the stuff?

          The MPs need to look out, Nov the 5th is coming up.;)

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                Boris has apparently 'phoned Junkers to say that he will be sending a letter asking for an extension - it must be sent by 11 tonight.

                I can imagine somewhere is the conversation BoJo made it clear that he doesn't want an extension - he is being forced to send the letter - and if they do extend he will cause havoc to the internal workings of the EU.

                I bet he also has some kind of legal trickery up his sleeve to avoid implementing any extension.

                Stay calm everyone - keep the faith - we will be out on the 31st :blue thumb:.
                 
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                  Hi @clanless , you're a bit behind the times.

                  The letter has already been sent but without his signature. ( When they ordered him to send a letter asking for an extension they forgot to tell him he had ti sign it ). Along with this letter he sent them a copy of the Benn legislation.


                  He also sent a signed letter saying that he thinks that any delay or extension would be a mistake.
                   
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                    Go Boris go.

                    On a more jovial note - have a look at Jezzas twitter feed - here's a sample :

                    Jezza posts - Jog on Boris Johnson with your daft ideas.

                    Response - Daft ideas? He's smashing the polls whilst you bunch of antisemitic nutjobs and Marxist fools continue to get hammered. In opposition for 9 years and running scared of an election. What an embarrassment you are!

                    Someone also posted this picture - which I thought was a little harsh -

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                      If I am not mistaken, there is also something in law whereby if a PM has to do something where under force, then that law or action is null and void.

                      I'd also be surprised if the EU doesn't have some sort of rule against heads of state being forced to act in an undemocratic manner, with their actions being under clear duress.

                      There is going to be a real irony here if all the faffing about by remain MP's has simply pushed us beyond a deal to no deal. I wonder how they will all feel on 1st November if we are out, no deal, and they realise they have wasted three years with their shenanigans and could have had an even better deal if they actually spent their time negotiating.
                       
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                        No, unfortunately, the Ben Act and the Lefwin Act are perfectly legal and within the constitution but are political laws that have become the new weapon against democracy and nothing to do with the running of the country. But that is why Laws are there to force people to do things.:dunno:
                        My MP is a Lady called Antoinnette Sandbach who is a remainer and voted for the Letwin Act........so if there is another Conservative candidate they will get my vote, if not then I will have to vote for her.
                         
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                          I'm with Fat Controller on this :smile:. There was a TV show recently where it was stated that a treaty amendment which is 'forced' upon a treaty member will have no effect. But the impression I got was that this clause was really meant for people being forced at gun point - so didn't apply to Boris, as Armandii points out - the Surrender Act and Oliver Hardy's amendment are sadly supported by the majority in Parliament.

                          Jezza is leading us - like a Zombie - into a no deal Brexit - it's time he and his cronies packed their bags.
                           
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                            That is the problem, the Ben Act and Letwin Acts are not treaties or amendments to Treaties, they are "internal political" UK legislations brought in by Opposition Parties and Rebel Conservatives and nothing to do with the EU. Unfortunately, what is happening is not a change in the legislation system, but in the Ethics of those MP's in oppositions to force a Government, with no majority, (and that is the key to the situation), to use legislation to block or change Government policies, democratic National Referendums, and the will of the Man/Woman on the street.:cat-kittyandsmiley::coffee:

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                            The battle ain't over:dunno::heehee:
                             

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                            Why would you vote for her when she has clearly gone against the wishes of her constituents? She has been recalled for her behaviour in fact, and I believe she has been deselected, so the question is fairly academic, but I can't get my head around voting for someone who has previously gone wholly against the wishes of her voters; that is how we are ending up with half of the eejits in parliament that we have now.
                             
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