Brexit -am I stupid or what

Apologies for not examining the exact nature of all MPs vote result and mathematically displaying the correct figure. As I'm sure you realise, the intention (ie the very point of communication) was to describe the general feeling as I see it

 

That is exactly what it is not

Brexit "happy families "Card game

 

See, clanless, that's what I like about you.......you're an Optimist

 

Which consists of 200 pages........even I can read 200 pages in 3 days.

 

No chance of them doing anything in a few days - or months! I've been looking in on them for the last few days and all they do is throw insults at each other. Nothing gets debated - and almost nothing for the last few years!

It reminds me of the school playground and they need the duty teacher going round clipping them round the ear'hole! Oh! I forgot , that's not allowed any more . Should we have a debate on that point?

 

If it's a done deal then why not push it through? It's a variation of the previous deal so it's not being read from scratch is it and how much time did they use to debate the May deal (I honestly don't know)?
Parliament is throwing everything at delaying and preventing Brexit which is fundamentally against the referendum result and that is my biggest problem with parliament at this point. Give them more time or less time, it will make no difference as they will find new ways of scuppering the process of leaving. The PM is the only one actually trying to make it happen; yes he's trying to push it through - he made a declaration of leaving on the 31st so why on earth would he not try and keep to that? Corbyn, Swinson et al would do the same if they were in office and the job had fallen to them.
BOTH sides are crying about democracy and BOTH sides have valid points but lets not be coy about this, it has zip all to do with it; this is about personal attacks on whichever PM is in office in attempts to frustrate the Brexit process until such point the hope is that A50 is withdrawn.
People don't really need an impact assessment do they? It's going to be bad in the short term and recover at some point after. That is utterly irrespective of whether we leave with a deal or without.
Trust in politics. Really? Politics is completely situational, a running battle to keep policy and manifesto pledges while reacting to what is actually happening; of course politicians change their tune, it's impossible to keep and deliver 100% on all promises and commitments as to get things through this shower of s**t parliament requires you to make backroom deals and water things down. Boris' track record to my mind must be exceptional as despite all the clamour about his 'lying', he's the Prime Minister and the rest aren't!

That said, if I had my way we'd get rid of the stinking lot of 'em, replace the system we have, create a constitution and start over. But would it really change anything?

 

No!

 

Sorry, I couldn't reply last night but I was extremely tired from the gardening session earlier in the day and was heading for bed. Yes, I have read the Bill as even though semi retired I'm still paid to read such papers, as the "Interpretation, Analysis of European Laws and legislation and It's Effects" is my area of professional interest and qualification, and has been for the last 18 years while working for Crown Courts.
I've actually read and re-read the Withdrawal Agreement Bill and I have to say that, due to it's very nature and subject, it is not what could be called an exact, definitive, precise paper.
If you break the Bill down to it's basic elements it basically covers, (a) the transition period and the abiliity of Ministers to extend it by another 2 years. (b) EU laws still applying to the UK during the transition period, (c) Future oversight by Parliament of Objectives, (d) Citizens Rights, (e) Workers Rights, (f) Northern Ireland, (g) Divorce Bill and basically that is it. So having to cover, in great detail, all those controversial subject in 2000 pages, never mind 200, is impossible due to the complexity of each subject. We also have to bear in mind that the real negotiations will happen after the BREXIT Bill is passed and those negotiations will take place between the Government, not Parliament, and the EU. So, all in all the Withdrawal Agreement Bill is more like a basic sketching of Big Bird than a full painting of a Masterpiece. Each subject within the Bill will need months/years of negotiation and hundreds of thousand of written text rather than a paper that, in 200 pages, can only draw the bare bones of the Agreement.
But, in my opinion for what it's worth, the main problem is not the inevitable vagueness and inexactitude of the Withdrawal Agreement Bill it will be the Opposition Parties supposedly reading it in a fairly neutral and reasonable fashion. The SNP will, and have, dismissed it out of hand and will probably asked for thousands of copies of it so they can use it their Loo's. The Liberals will not entertain it in any fashion as their policy is to abolish BREXIT at any price. That leaves Labour, which is where I express my personal opinion. The Front Bench of Labour has, it has be demonstrated and proved, a group IQ of less than a Single Cell Amoeba and again, apart from around 10 to 19 Labour MP's, no intention of supporting BREXIT.
So what we, as the watching, exasperated, Public will now see is Amendments after Amendments from all the Opposition Parties, not to improve the Bill but to use it as a weapon/tool to delay, block, and frustrate it, as the Withdrawal Agreement Bill is just that, a Bill that legal amendments can be added rather than a paper that is a proposal and merely discussed.