Brexit -am I stupid or what

That is the problem - I live in a constituency that is so safely Tory, I am surprised the roads are not blue, so voting anything else (as I have done always before now) is almost like a wasted vote - I still do it, because if you don't try you won't get anywhere, but the result is usually the same. Thankfully, my MP is Kwasi Kwarteng who is pro-Brexit.

 

But then, if everyone thinks that way and nobody goes to vote for the other parties, it is never going to change. What if there are such a large amount of people in your constituency that if they did vote for their desired party, that party might just win?

 

Not quite sure I understand the logic of that, FC Voting Labour, which I assume you do, despite that you disagree with their "neither here nor their polices" and what's been happening within the Party, is like the "Old Dears" in the Pub who when asked who they're voting for say "My Granddad always voted Labour, my Dad did, so I will always vote Labour" On that basis Hitler could have taken over Labour and they would still vote for that Party.
I happen to know that you're too intelligent to vote on the "tribal" basis so I'm wondering why you're thinking that way.??
If you remember, some time back, you questioned why I would vote for my MP, (now resigned) , who was a remainer in the forthcoming Election. My answer was that I would do so because it would help ensure that a BREXIT Government came into power with a large a working majority as possible.......so I don't understand why a avid BREXITEER like you would vote for a party that is not

 

I was (past tense) a Labour voter, and a member of a trade union to boot, voting for the party nationally and locally with only one exception when I voted Lib Dem (I was somewhat disgruntled at Labour's performance at that point), and that backfired on me quite spectacularly when Mr Clegg deemed it fit to go into bed with Cameron and his clan.

There is no way in hell that I will vote for Labour whilst Corbyn and McDonnell are anywhere near the controls, and I have become increasingly disillusioned with the party as a whole - indeed, I terminated my TU membership also, as they are feeding the Labour clowns.

I simply do not and can not trust the Tories to deliver Brexit, despite the fact that Boris seemed to get quite close to the mark - ultimately, when you dig into his deal it isn't really Brexit and sees us tied to the EU for many years, paying for the pleasure in more ways than one, as well as leaving us liable for a vast amount of cash if things go sour in the EU (which I reckon they will), whilst still leaving us negotiating for years to get a trade deal as Canada had to do.

Parliament needs a gutting out - I have been saying that since long before Brexit was even a thing, and there really needs to be a different approach. Currently, there is only one party offering that new approach as well as Brexit, and that is the Brexit Party. No risk of a remainer MP being elected from them.

Could I vote for Kwasi (assuming he remains our candidate), yes I probably could - - do I want him though, well, no I don't because when all is said and done his party is one of the ones that has been behaving like spoilt brats for the past three years.

 

I see that the other way up - they are ready to govern because they are not dyed in the wool parliamentarians who only know how to squirm and lie to cover their own backsides. They are business people, people with life experience, and people who might just be able to inject a bit of realism into Whitehall. Let's not beat about the bush here - the politicians don't actually run the country as such, that is done by the civil service; the politicians merely direct the way that the civil service carry things out by giving an overall direction.

Besides, with the number of MP's that are throwing the towel in (mostly remainers who know they are about to have their backsides kicked out of a job by the electorate), there will be some newbies in parliament even if you vote for the same old liars. I'd rather give the new bunch a chance - doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result isn't for me.

 

It was that part of your post that puzzled me, FC, so, I take it what you're saying is that despite your dislike for all parties you will vote for your MP as he is a Brexiteer?

 

No, sorry - I meant that whilst voting for anyone other than Conservative in my area could be deemed as a waste of time with it being almost a foregone conclusion, I still vote for the party or candidate that I want to vote for. I am not going to vote for Kwarteng for the reasons mentioned above.

 

I see Tom Watson, Deputy Leader of the Labour Party has stood down for "personal reasons and not political" reasons. I think anyone could see this was coming, after his prolonged absence, (months), from the Front Bench, a motion by at the last Labour General Meeting by the extremist to remove him, and various power struggles in the Party have driven him out. He was a Remainer, but also a "middle of the road" Labour member but I don't think there is room for a "middle of the road" man in Labour anymore.

 

Who should you vote for 2019 election quiz

I'm sure it's nonsense but interesting what it throws out.