Brexit -am I stupid or what

I thought the Romans did it?

Hadrian built his wall and Agricola built another wall (Antonine Wall) north of that. I well remember those heady days of construction

 

In yesterday's farcical PMQs, I'd have loved Boris to have said to Corbyn 'you still here?'

In terms of Scottish independence they have no possible chance of standng on their own two feet and they know it; their plan to use sterling in the first place is bonkers. If they got independence then we could just roll a few troops over the border and claim it back!

 

I'm pretty sure that Boris has been sorely tempted to say the same thing, Loofah!!

 

Actually, if you take a step back, only the SNP is saying that, pete. I think that for the Scottish public, and for the all of the UK Public, leaving the EU will not bring about the doom, earthquakes, Hurricanes, sink holes, plagues of Locusts, that the SNP, Labour, Lib Dems, and remainers were/are forecasting.
What the SNP is, and has been doing, is to run a parallel campaign of fear to reinforce their diatribe of Nationalism. Devolution has brought about the ability to govern both politically and financially in an independent fashion to both Wales and Scotland. But to the SNP it was only a stepping stone to increase their rant for separation giving them more political power to demand even more.

 

I get it - as I have said before, us Scots have very long memories and the damage done to Scotland by Maggie Thatcher in particular has never been forgiven, therefore would rather stick pins in our own eyes than vote Tory. Traditionally, Labour would have been a viable option and were the go-to party for much of Scotland, bearing in mind the heavy industries that were there such as the shipyards, mines, oil & gas etc. Only, this time, if they voted Labour that got them remain and Corbyn - - a lot of folk weren't that daft to vote him in. Those that wanted to leave the EU, but couldn't vote Tory on principle had to then vote for someone to hopefully ensure that Labour didn't get enough votes to get many seats (and it seems to have worked, thankfully). SNP on its own in Westminster has a limited number of seats, but if those seats were transposed to Labour and then added to the potential English and Welsh Labour seats, that would have risked Corbyn getting in - the SNP vote was therefore safer.

 

The North of England surprised me a wee bit, but bear in mind that they didn't have the SNP to vote for there (or an alternative like the SNP); I actually thought that the Brexit Party would do better in the North of England, but then again I think Nigel shot that out of hand the second he said he wasn't going to field candidates in strong Tory areas, as that sent a signal that the party wasn't really ready for Parliament. Cap that off with the fact that Boris managed to pull off connecting with working class folks, and not just in the North either - never before has a Tory managed to get so close to understanding what the working class folks were thinking/wanting, and at the same time Labour had all but abandoned their working class voters.

 

and not only by the Scottish. A lot of those who remember the Thatcher years, whether they were Conservatives, Labour, Lib Dems, Crazy Lord Sutch, will feel a bad taste in their mouths and want to spit. She and her gang of "Thugs" such as Heseltine, Tebbit, etc treated those they put out of work with contempt and left families broken and destitute. She sent our Armed Forces out to the Falklands undermanned, underarmed, and underequipped because of the cutbacks that she inflicted on them. But, she had the gall and arrogance to appear on TV in front of No.10 and claim the victory as hers......damn, that bad taste in my mouth has come back.