Corona Virus Treatment

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  1. CanadianLori

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    Our province has adopted the use of the app or one similar. It is voluntary and what they say is that if/when you receive an alert advising you that someone you have been near has contracted the virus, please go get tested and isolate until you get a negative result- takes 24 hours for the result when tested.

    The pubs for most of my province are either open on their patios. I think that the table service indoors would also be good, as you have, because they can allow seating at alternating tables to keep distancing intact and only allow table service to further ensure it. Pubs cannot be expected to survive on sunny day only sales. So you got it right, our guys are still clamping down a bit much.

    I'll visit my local, probably tomorrow, for an hour and chat with friends I haven't seen in months. None of these people would get in my space or rudely sneeze without putting they face in the crook of their arm or in a tissue so I'm confident that I will not be exposed to any harm. And I want to support the pub. :)
     
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      That's what they are recommending for our pubs.
       
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        As a matter of interest does anyone know the number of confirmed active cases in the UK?
         
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        Shouldn't think so.
        Loads who don't even realise they have it or that they can give it to others.
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          Accepted, but there surely must be a confirmed number somewhere?
           
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            “House prices are unlikely to take a significant hit any time soon. If anything, the stimulus the government has created in response to COVID-19 is more likely to create one of the biggest property booms the UK market is ever likely to see"

            :roflol::roflol::roflol:

            That's what estate agents tell the media in press releases.

            Privately, they're telling vendors that potential buyers are offering 20% below asking price, and that many of these offers are being accepted.
             
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              OK, I have found this which is produced by UKCovid19Stats based on the dataset issued by the Department for Health and Social Care (so seems to be reasonably reliable):

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              According to whom?
              Department of Health and Social Care
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              As of 9am 24 June, there have been 8,542,186 tests, with 232,086 tests on 23 June. 306,862 people have tested positive. As of 5pm on 23 June, of those tested positive for coronavirus, across all settings, 43,081 have sadly died. More info:
              https://gov.uk/guidance/coron
               
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                So, on the 23rd June at the end of the graph, it shows 653 confirmed cases in the UK. The roling average is higher at 1081 purely by the nature of rolling averages, however as we also don't know how many people may have it and not know or be undiagnosed, let's take that higher figure and be generous - let's multiply it by three.

                1081 x 3 = 3243

                UK population is 66.65 million (66,650,000), therefore by that calculation there is currently 0.004864% of the population of the UK that has the virus.

                So again, let us not be conservative as we don't know the potential silent carriers, let us inflate that figure once more, let's double it and round it up, to 0.01%

                Now, what is the chances that you are going to meet one of that 0.01% down the pub or in a restaurant?
                 
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                That is totals throughout though, not current, right here and now numbers for the people infected.
                 
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                A good few problem questions here

                England now has 1m social distancing, in Scotland we are still at 2m

                So I jump on a full train at Newcastle that is legally set at 1m social distancing,
                What happens at the border at Berwick, do half of us have to get off and walk ?

                Apart from the queues, shopping has not been too bad thanks to the weather
                Now I do not really look forward to standing in the queue three times around the
                supermarket car park in torrential rain and 10c
                 
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                  Ah, it depends ... on WorldoMeter they say today UK 306,862 +652 43,081 +154 ... but their source says ...
                  • 652 new cases and 154 new deaths in the United Kingdom. Due to historic revisions to pillar 1 by the Government, the cumulative total for positive cases is 1 case lower than if you added the daily figure to yesterday’s total. [source] [source]
                   
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                  OK, so lets work on 652 new cases - given that cases were higher in the prior seven days but also that they are falling and therefore should be lower for the next seven days I think it is fair to say 652 x 14 = 9128 current active cases

                  I accept the figure is an assumption, but I would say it was fair given that we are told the virus lasts for anything between seven and fourteen days. That still comes out at 0.01% of the UK population. Even if we doubled that, massively overestimating, that is still 0.02% of the population carrying an active form of the virus.

                  The chances of you actually meeting one of those people is so incredibly small, one has to ask what on earth we are doing quite literally destroying our world?
                   
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                    :love30: and precisely my point on June 17th and in agreement with @pete.

                    Yes, it only takes one but if you wear mask when you can't keep your distance and touch only what you need to, then sanitize/wash your hands you've probably eliminated the possibility of getting it :dbgrtmb:

                    There are only 17 active cases in the entire town today - a "town" of just under 200K people. And in my entire region of 450K people there are only 2 active cases in old folks homes which is lovely to know :)
                     
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                    Looks like the mortality rate is closer to 65k. We've decided to start venturing out in August - provided there is no spike in infections that is.

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