Isn't any peat in compost an environmental no-no?

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  1. pete

    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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    £6.99 for 60 ltrs.
    I've used Jack's Magic for at least the last 5 yrs and never had a problem.

    You can't believe everything you read or are told, we all have different ways of feeding and watering, it's more about what works for you.

    I recall in other threads people saying the likes of B&Q compost varies from year to year.
    People even buy from Wickes, basically a builders merchant.

    Why are you bashing your head against the wall?
    It s not necessary. :scratch:
     
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      I have posted this before, but here goes, I use a mixture of my own compost, J.I No.1 and Coir for seeds and add a little feed for potting on, never had any problems.
      I do have lots of plastic pots which are re-used, I also use Coffee pots from KFC & McDonalds for starting off Runners. Should add, with care these last years.
       
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        Hello I also use Jack's Magic and have always had good results with it:smile:
         
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          You're welcome, Redwing.:love30: I think every one knows that members of the Admin post as ordinary members and are subject to criticism, being reported, and having to adhere to the Rules and protocols. We only act as Admin when involved in trying to keep the peace and harmony on the Forum and any Admin member, as Fat Controller succinctly, and politely, pointed out involved personally in a report then automatically stands aside to maintain neutrality and fairness and is treated like any other member of GC. So, just so that you absorb the fact I will repeat that I, and other members of the Admin Team post on the Open Forum as ordinary members of GC. I have had that complaint thrown at me several times, as have other members of the Admin Team, when somebody was bordering on being offensive and critical in their post but accusing the other of the same, when that person has been reported and it makes the Admin Team even more determined to maintain true neutrality and fairness in all matters.

          or do you believe in one law for one and another for other people? As a fact I didn't insult you as the definition of a Hypocrite is a person who doesn't do what they encourage other people to do and as you, yourself, admitted that you use Peat added compost yet were posting in outrage that other people were also using it.

          Actually, I said 2500 litres. And I have 11 Bearded Iris arriving from Cayeux Iris Nursery on Monday which will involve using 80-85 litres of Peat added compost, sand, and grit to pot them into eleven 7.5 litre pots.

          I don't doubt your conservation credentials, as you see them, Redwing, nor was the "badge on your collar" aimed at you personally but rather at people who used the phrase to strengthen their argument.
          All I ask is that in a discussion of issues, of whatever subject, comments aren't made to make people feel guilty by the other person trying to stand on higher moral grounds.
          Enjoy your day and Happy Gardening.
           
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            Always, Jymi, always. But being friendly, polite and courteous does not mean members should not be able to discuss using facts and the strength of their opinions while also not being told they are basically environmental vandals. Humour and courtesy are the main strength of GC and it's members are, without doubt, the best.:love30::cat-kittyandsmiley:
             
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              I agree, pete. I was just observing that has been both negative and positive comments regarding Jack's Magic, I haven't passed comment on it. I did trial it last year and it's wasn't bad but I couldn't afford to buy it in the quantities I use.:dunno::wallbanging:
               
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                My personal experience of B&Q compost is that for a price of £8.95 for a massive 125 ltr bag I'm not expecting miracles.
                However it does germinate seedlings very well.
                I've had virtually 100% success with seeds.
                BUT, it does no good for onward growth soon losing it's varied nutrients. I've tried it with hanging baskets but i always apply slow release granules to the pot.. John innes no3 has been in short supply of late which has narrowed the options too.
                 
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                  pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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                  I think you have hit the nail on the head when comparing like to like, you tend to mostly get what you pay for.
                  Still lots of JI around here.:smile:
                   
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                    Until the quality and price of peat free compost is as good or better than peat base compost I'll continue to use Peat base compost. One member mentioned £9 for 30 litres I normally buy my compost at 200L for £10 or £11 its doesn't make an sense buying a product I deem not as good and at a vastly greater price I am not made of money ( unfortunately ).

                    The day Ireland stop extracting peat for mainly powering power stations will probably be the day I stop using peat based compost , unless they make a better product peat free and at a good price which I think is unlikely .
                     
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                      I have had very mixed results with Jacks Magic - first couple of years I tried it, it was pretty good, but last year it was dire.
                       
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                        @Redwing I've been a member of Gardeners Corner for a good few years now and believe, considering the size of the forum's membership, that our Admin members do a fine job in maintaining all aspects of it. More recently @ARMANDII and @Fat Controller are mostly to the fore in keeping it up and running. Both male yes, is that a problem? You must take into consideration it is not easy to find other long term members (male or female) that have the right credentials that their positions require and believe me they could do with extra help! You may remember that some years back there were female admin members as well, but there comes a time when we all need to retire from certain aspects of our lives through age or health issues and this is what has occurred. Armandii and Fat Controller aren't exempt from this as you may know and they both have lives outside the forum too. So please have respect for the job they do under the circumstances, it's not easy!

                        Redwing you may think they insult other members but do they? Yes, sometimes they may get a little heated when responding to members who are out of order, but I think at times it's necessary to get their point across when those members close their ears to what they are being told. The same applies to what you say are "long overbearing critical posts", basically explaining the situation in more depth. Finally, posts of your own often come across as patronising or insulting, so I will leave you to think on that!
                         
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                        • pete

                          pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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                          Well yes we do hear this kind thing, :smile:but I can honestly say over, the years,I can only remember buying one type of compost that nothing would grow in .
                          It was at a knockdown price piled up outside a pet food store.
                          Richmoor was the name and nothing would grow in it.

                          I'm guessing all must vary from year to year, but as long as it has a reasonably consistent water holding capacity, I can always feed earlier or later.
                          But then I always alter the water holding capacity any way by adding sand etc.
                          Bear in mind you can grow plants in rock wool :biggrin:
                           
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                            I have used Jacks Magic in the past but found cuttings and seedlings didn't grow well. I also found it had a tendency to set quite hard in pots. This year I have used Miracle Gro all purpose compost and have had the same results with lack of growth. Next year I'll go back to B&Q's Verve.
                             
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                              I’ve got to agree Verve does one thing really well and that's germinate seeds.
                              I've grown literally hundreds of plants this year and the much dissed B&Q offering always gives me success. It doesn't dry out, and it drains well too so you can only speak as you find.
                              Trust me, if it didn't sprout my seeds I'd be venomously slating it lol.
                              I don't like wasting seeds or time.. :noidea:
                               
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                                I've used Wickes compost this year - the big, cheap bales (had them delivered right at the start of the year before things went nuts) and I have had quite a good year this year.
                                 
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