Corona Virus Treatment

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    Greater Manchester: local restrictions

    "You should follow all relevant university and higher educational guidance if you attend, work at or manage higher education establishments, including universities and associated accommodation. The guidance also covers what to do in the event of an outbreak at these establishments. It is important to understand how to minimise risk during the coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic and ensure that the experience of attending or working at these establishments is enjoyable and as safe as possible".

    It's the same with Leeds Local Lockdown, the rules appear to permit universities to add on what they like under full force of the law.

    https://www.leeds.gov.uk/coronavirus/local-rules

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    If you are a student or visitor at a university in Leeds you should follow the advice on their website.
    So Individual universities rules are embedded in the local lockdown legislation.
     
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      You could also lose your job if your Boss(s) finds out you've come to work with COVID 19 symptoms.........Rock and a Hard Place.:dunno:
       
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          I find it totally and utterly 'gentlemans ornaments'...Why would the whole world be brought to it's knees for nothing?
          I do feel that much is being 'bigged up' just for the sake of trying to make people take notice but that isn't working either.There are many folks very easily led these days sadly.
           
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              Thanks for this. I've been asking in shops today and appreciate the extra info. This is going to be a big step for me, so I'm going to read this thoroughly before jumping into anything.
               
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                Utter balcocks!
                My understanding is that he is simply dragging up the old debate over whether a virus is a living organism that reproduces inside the host or if it is a toxin that causes cell mutation inside the host. And becoming a (very) minor celebrity into the bargain.
                 
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                  And it's complicated further by some makes/models? of phones not working with the Covid app, in addition to some operating systems not working with it.

                  But if getting a smartphone just for this app, I'd personally go for a 'non-expiry' sim with a £5 top up and make it last for years, plus use the smartphone for apps out and about that don't eat mobile data, just use free wifi as and when required.

                  I've participated in purchasing large numbers of (O2 I think) free sims each with £1 of credit in the past and keep swopping them for calls was a PITA, but there were ways of exchanging that credit for other, tangible stuff.
                   
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                    I have a Nokia 1 plus and have just downloaded the app is currently around £60 on offer in Argos there may be cheaper phones that will work too.
                    I understand that this may still be expensive would suggest 2nd hand phone the shop c.e.x has a wide range and gives a 2 year guarantee of some sort. Mr scrungee's SIM ideas will save money too.
                     
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                      The wearing of a mask on public transport is mandatory, therefore I can see no reason why you would need the app. As long as you give your details in any establishments that require them for test and trace, or do not go into those establishments, you should be fins surely?

                      @JWK - thanks for the info regarding how payments to universities are made. It does beg the question though, how students can be saddled with a debt when they are not exactly getting full value for their money? The current situation is a bit like them buying a Mini at full price only to find it only has the driver's seat...
                       
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                          Simon I get the impression you don't really want to get a smart phone but think you should because of the app. You shouldn't feel pressured by something that isn't a legal requirement and because others say it must be done. So many people suffer now from what I call 'sheep' syndrome - they feel they must copy what everyone else does. Think independently and make your own mind up about it without worrying about others influence. Even if I had a smart phone I wouldn't bother, it's just another way of gaining personal information. Mobile phones dominate a very high percentage of people's lives now but we can and do exist without them.
                           
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                            [QUOTEThe wearing of a mask on public transport is mandatory, therefore I can see no reason why you would need the app. [/QUOTE]

                            Excellent point. I suppose I'm thinking about how, on board trains, we all touch surfaces, railings, buttons etc from time to time, getting on and off etc, so there is a chance I could pick it up in having done that.
                             
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                              Excellent point. I suppose I'm thinking about how, on board trains, we all touch surfaces, railings, buttons etc from time to time, getting on and off etc, so there is a chance I could pick it up in having done that.[/QUOTE]

                              Public transport is deep cleaned within an inch of its life on a daily basis now, and specialist cleansing fluids are used that kill coronavirus, so your risk is limited to transmission on that particular day. You could limit that with gloves I suppose, but truthfully that would require disposable gloves to be fully effective, and I remain wholly unconvinced that they would be.

                              The problem with a lot of my views are that you immediately get button-holed as a Covid-denier, or a conspiracy theorist, and that is very dangerous. There are a lot of medical professionals out there who are questioning the data, and rightly so because the data being used is flawed.

                              The scaremongering from Vallance and Whitty is remarkable - yet because they are in the position they are, people instantly believe them. Their figure of 50k cases a day by mid-October being prime example of that - that is not just scaremongering, but weapons-grade scaremongering. Vallance has a vested interest, financially, in the company given the contract to make the vaccine let's remember.

                              Not denying there is a virus - just looking for some critical thinking and would like to see us concentrate our efforts and money on treating those who are ill rather than the current scattergun approach. Let's listen to all the science - Prof Sikora being one example - but we need to do able to do so without them being shouted down if their view doesn't fit the current narrative. Scientists get things wrong all the time - that is how they learn and discover.

                              Let's also remember that the common cold will trigger a positive result for Covid - not surprising given it is a coronavirus. So not only are we muddying our data with cases of the common cold, but we are seeking a vaccine for something that we have never been able to cure.
                               
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