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  1. ARMANDII

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    Well, as I said, pete, the speed is abysmal

    Response latency 21mps
    Download 14mps
    Upload .04.4 - 0.7mps
     
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    No, I'm not saying that, I'm saying I have fibre in the street then there is a virgin copper cable to my house, I think its similar to coaxial cable , but never really checked.
    But it doesn't use any of the old bt cabling.
     
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      And that is using a cable to your PC?
       
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        Yes, as I said, I don't use Wi-Fi:nonofinger::dunno: in any of the system.
         
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        I'm on the basic package and getting
        36.8 download
        10.1 upload on Wi Fi.

        If I plugged in a cable I'd get more than that.
         
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          There's basically no difference as it will be using copper.:dunno: The problem is (a) using copper wire of any form from the Hub to the House and (b) the old copper House terminal delivering the data to your Computer. Fibre optic data travels around 30% less that the speed of Light, while data using copper wire is down to the fact that electrons only travel at less than 1% of the speed of Light.......which is a shade slower than I can reach for a free Pint when offered:dunno:
           
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          Yeah but you use copper cable to your PC, so, if what you are saying is correct, they could run fibre right into your house and it would make absolutely no difference to your speed.;):biggrin: because you still have that bit of copper.

          Nar, I dont think it works like that.:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:
           
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          Virgin's copper is totally different to the BT network copper if you are a cable customer - the cable network uses co-axial cable to carry the signals, where as the BT (Openreach) network uses twisted pair on the copper sections.

          Virgin Broadband is incredibly good - their SuperHub.... utter garbage. My advice is to disable the wifi on it, put it into modem only mode and then buy yourself a dedicated router - the difference in wifi is night and day.
           
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            @ARMANDII ,All I can conclude is that on that thinking they are wasting a hell of a lot of money installing fibre all over the country.
             
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              Test done just now - wirelessly connected to my TP Link router, which is in turn wired connection to the Superhub (modem mode only)
               
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                Absolutely not, pete, but at the moment a lot of people with copper terminals from the Hub cabinet will not benefit until the copper terminal is changed.
                I just checked on whether or not Sky can change the terminal in my house which would take my broadband speed to 143mbs which would not be the full optic fibre speed but, obviously, would be much better, but an increase in costs to £39 a month plus a £10 installation fee. So, I'll have a check with SKY to see if it's possible.
                 
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                @Fat Controller , I'm assuming that is not the basic package?

                I never did get the TP link router to work for me, but got a new super hub and had it moved so things are better now.
                 
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                  I'm not sure if it will be fibre to the outside of our propety then copper in to the house but it's nice that the very rural houses are getting something fast :) it would be very nice to have 1000mbs we will wait and see

                  14mbs would be good, last check was 3.4 mbs and some days we can get 5mbs but if it's wet we get 1-2 mbs because of the bad lines, the last time we had no broadband the fiter said there was 10 breaks on the line so he change our line for a new one and we got 6mbs not of long
                   
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                    Yes i did but i'm not a person that understand to much of this tec stuff :dbgrtmb: i'm a bit like our slow broadband:heehee:
                     
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                      All mobile here - network drives 20 items - smart plugs, bulbs, computers, tablets and various amazon devices. Can watch fire tv on multiple tv's at the same time. Works fine on 4g - but will delay upgrading the router to 5g even if we have good signal. The techies view is that 4g is likely to speed up as everyone jumps over to 5g.

                      From my experience faster broadband does not translate to that much of a benefit. Perhaps watching more tv's at the same time or downloading faster - that's about it IMHO.
                       
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