Corona Virus Treatment

That's an idea

 

I was wondering if this is the same vaccine with very real distribution problems. It has to be stored at -75C ! This is the new Pfizer one. Lots of hurdles on getting that safely and in a state that is still efficacious.

The Donald? I don't care about him. He's a few tantrums away from gone.

 

From August

From end October

"If a person is vaccinated against COVID-19, will they still be able to spread the virus to susceptible people?

If an individual is vaccinated and they are protected from infection, they will not transmit the virus to someone else. But, it is expected that COVID-19 vaccines may protect against severe infection, but not necessarily prevent mild or asymptomatic infection. If this is the case, a vaccinated person could still spread the virus if they are infected. This is why it is expected that even after a vaccine becomes available, people will need to use masks and practice social distancing measures for some time"

 

Not ideal, but wearing masks and social distancing have pretty much become ingrained with me, a bit like the wearing of seat belts, so I don’t foresee it being too much of a problem, for me.

 

I thought it might turn the tables a bit. If the old old and vulnerable are the first to be vaccinated, then the younger and healthier will need to be protected from those first vaccinated who then become asymptomatic rather than hospitalised.

 

Well I was under the impression that is something they are not sure about at the moment.

But if it turns out to be true, then I cant really see a vaccine actually achieving much, in regards the the mass population.
And as I said earlier, once they start the mask wearing it will become normal and expected even if there is no risk, health and safety will make sure of that in these super safe days.

 

I’d have thought that at some point a ‘tipping point’ would be reached, whereby the virus isn’t able to circulate easily, and then at all (‘herd immunity’). This will of course depend on the numbers taking it up.

 

If you decline the offer of the vaccine, will it restrict your "freedom" to behave like those who have been ?

 

Coronavirus: fifth of people likely to refuse Covid vaccine, UK survey finds

Will the use of masks/distancing continue to be compulsory to help protect the 8% with ineffective vaccinations (10% of 80%) and the 20% anti-vaxxers?

N.B. That's just adults:

"England’s Health Secretary Matt Hancock has confirmed: “We are not proposing to make this compulsory – not least because I think the vast majority of people are going to want to have it.”

If it becomes available, children will not routinely be offered it because they are low risk."

21% of the UK population are under18, 16% intend refusing the vaccination(s) (20% of the 79% >17), and 6% will have ineffective vaccinations (10% of 80% of 79%), a total of 43% of the population who wont have effective vaccinations.

Is 57% enough for 'herd immunity'? (And some of those are expected to be asymptomatic and remain infectious).

P.S. I thought children were already vaccinated against diseases that didn't cause them much of a problem, but were serious if transmitted to adults.

 

That neatly sums up the attitude of soo many French. I can't help but feel that if you truly love your nearest and dearest, you'd do whatever is necessary to protect them. That includes the annual cold, 'flu and gastroenteritis episodes. All spread every year by bad hygiene and the need to hug and kiss. Isn't temporary distancing better than permanent loss?

 

Lots of fines being dished out around here for brecking the covid rules

 

109.5 Per 100,000 when I checked this morning, so it's more than doubled in 2 days. At that rate you'll be straight into Tier 3 when Lockdown ends.