Corona Virus Treatment

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  1. JWK

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    If someone refuses the vaccination and then catches the virus, the NHS should refuse to treat them.
     
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      That's not how the NHS dedicated staff work, John, right or wrong.:dunno:
       
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        Thanks John. Being blunt I could be dead either way then? :doh:
         
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          As usual, in this World, there's more than one answer and angle to a problem or situation, so probably generalisations in a discussion are not a good tool.
           
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            You are probably right Armandii. I will point out that my answer was tongue in cheek, perhaps I should have phrased it differently. :)
             
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              I often said that after my Wife had thrown something at me, Sheal:dunno::heehee:
               
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                It would not be down to NHS staff, it would be dictated by Boris.

                There would be exemptions for those with valid medical reasons who cannot be vaccinated.
                 
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                  No, John, it wouldn't. It's not within Boris's powers or this Government's powers to direct how the NHS conducts or keeps to it's medical values. The Government does hold the financial purse but any threat to withhold or punish NHS to try to control it would be political suicide.
                  Any such desire from the Government to dictate policies running against the Hippocratic Oath would require a Bill of Legislation, but I honestly cannot see any Government, of any colour, wanting to do so or finding any support in the very unlikely event of it wanting to do so.
                   
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                    Exactly. Which goes back to the point that vaccination cannot be made compulsory for everyone.

                    I do everything that is required to protect myself and those around me, be they people I know or not. If it was safe for me to be vaccinated then I probably would be.

                    A doctor, taking into account Armandii's mention of the Hippocratic Oath, would not knowingly vaccinate someone that could become ill or worse.
                     
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                      Right now, our province is allowing appointments for test s for those that might be "possibles", meaning having been in contact with someone who tested positive or having symptoms of the viruse so our numbers are reflecting purposeful mining for cases.

                      I'll only take the vaccine when it is available after the frontline workers in health or every other industry and vulnerable have gotten theirs. Priorities matter. An old broad like me is not as valuable as a young nurse or paramedic or ambulance driver. Priorities. When I see that achieved, then I'll worry about the nutters that don't do it because of stupidity, ignorance or arrogance. They are the ones who will threaten those who cannot, for medical reasons, use the vaccines.
                       
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                        But what should be done if a person has been vaccinated and became ill because of it or had severe side effects or even died because of the vaccination?
                         
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                        Fair enough - the next time some berk gets themselves in trouble by tombstoning off a bridge or get stuck atop Ben Nevis in February, the emergency services should let them get on with it as well?
                         
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                          Good morning well I have managed to get my flu jab at the chemists as all the local surgeries have none,my chemist said that they only have a small amount enough for 100 people,all this Covid vaccination risks are to me just the same as the possible side effects on all the tablets(medication) which mention the words "May" and "could" and sometimes can total 20 possible reactions,anyway I will be first in the queue for the jab if I get the chance;):blue thumb:
                           
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                            That reminds me, I got my letter yesterday - need to book my flu jab today.
                             
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                            Question on travel in covid areas, for those who have a better understanding of the regulations than my small brain can work out.
                            Manchester is a tier 3 area. Silverdale(Cumbria) is a tier 3 area. After this lockdown ends on Dec 3rd. Are we allowed to travel 50 miles from one T3 area to another, I understand this may not be advised, but could we do it for one day?
                            TIA
                            Ps. I can drive to Manchester airport and have a two week holiday in Tenerife, no problem.
                             
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