Elections On Thursday

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    But is that how sturgeon sees it? :noidea:
     
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      No, I expect the SNP anticipate leaving us with all the debt incurred deaĺing with financial crisis, Covid, etc. plus us continuing to pay pensions/redundancies/etc. for their share of staff/etc. employed dealing with UK wide issues, and a whole raft of other additional costs associated with Scotland leaving the union.
       
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        Scotland couldn't survive financially which I suspect is why Ms Sturgeon wants independence and back in through the EU door. She seems to think Scotland would be better off, but she's got nothing to offer them and they know that.

        Ah, the return of the Marches and border reivers perhaps. :biggrin:

        It's not all one way Scrungee. England currently takes all our sustainable energy (electricity) and sells it back to us at a higher price. In that respect it really gripes me knowing that people in Scotland have to pay more for electricity than the rest of Britain. I think Scotland should have its own grid and gain not lose from what it produces.
         
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            Didn't realise that sustainable power sources in Scotland were in the ownership of the Scots, I thought they were all in the hands of privately owned companies.
             
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              Not quite all @Scrungee I think only British Gas and SSE are in British hands, the rest are French, German and Spanish, it's a crazy situation.
               
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                Wiki doesn't always get its facts right but this may be of interest....

                SSE plc - Wikipedia
                 
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                    No!!!!!!!! :whistle: :heehee:
                     
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                    I not only hope that Labour keep losing, I hope their party gets destroyed if they continue to be so immoderate. I've voted for them most times but I'll never vote for them again, that's for sure! They are insane and clearly think the tiny, extreme and extremely vocal minority of woketards on Twitter represent the British public or even true British Liberals, that shows you they're not very bright in itself.

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                      They have allowed Momentum and the extreme left to take over the party and as a result things are becoming more unhinged by the day @Nikolaos - the sad truth is that it pervades out into our media with BBC and Sky being two of the worst. Got to be honest, if it weren't for the womenfolk in the house, the BBC would be kicked into touch here.
                       
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                        Don't mind it as much with Sky tho FC, they're not the ones getting the public funding! It sickens me what has happened to the BBC, I'm a right-wing Libertarian nowadays but believe it or not I was a Guardian subscriber less than a decade ago and a similar thing has happened there. They have gone from being a reasonably impartial publication (I think it was Orwell who described them as "objective but boring" in one of his essays, a rather accurate description, really) to a full-on Far-Left activist rag! :frown:

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                          According to some, I am a racist, Nazi, far-right, intolerant fascist.... funny how it is the extreme left chucking those labels around and at the same time being deeply racist themselves with antisemitism running rife. All my life until the last general election I was a Labour voter, and until 2018 I was a fully paid up member of TGWU/Unite. It sickens me to be honest.
                           
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                            Indeed, I was truly shocked by how many Leftists and even Left-leaning Liberals are anti-Semitic nowadays after speaking to them, it's one of the reasons I want nothing to do with the Left as a whole, they call it "anti-Zionism" and somehow think it's acceptable! :dunno: But opposing Zionism means you're simply denying the essential right of Jewish people to a homeland.

                            The Far-Left are constantly racialising issues that are nothing to do with race too, they are very unfair on Right-wingers and Liberals who have legitimate concerns about fundamentalist Muslims and just simplistically dismiss it as racism. Those concerns are based on cultural incompatibility, not race.

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                              There can be no place for extremists of any variety to be honest - left, right or any religion; the problem that Labour seem to have (and seem utterly blind to) is that they have become the party of extremes and all the time egged on by Champagne socialists that wouldn't know a days hardship if it bit them squarely on the bum.
                               
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