Solved ID required please

Hi all, can anybody please I.D these 2 plants please?
The second looks like a Gunnera but can't be due to its location and ever green over winter. Some have suggested a Fatsia but I'm not convinced

 

the first one may be Helleborus foetidus

and the other Acanthus ? does it have long spikes of purple flowers ?

 

thanks John just coudnt think of the variety

 

Thank you all for your input. We thought it was a hellebore of some description but I've never seen one so large. The Acanthus isn't mine unfortunately. I admire it everyday on my way to work and have never seen it in any garden centre. I'm surprised to hear it flowers!! I look forward to that. Many thanks again

 

@Jowo The Acanthus will have spikes of purple and white flowers in late summer and is known as Bears Breech or Bears Breeches.

 

Definitely a hellebore, trifoliate leaves, maybe argutifolius but not foetidus as leaves don't appear palmate enough

 

At least I was going in the right direction

 

Thank you all so much! I look forward to the hellebore flowering. Always good to get a nice surprise in a new garden! Now I know what the Acanthus is, I've read it's quite invasive so I'll maybe steer clear and admire from a distance