Afghanistan

Didn't we send him to the America?

 

Yes but it took ages because he claimed his European human rights.. He was shoved into a hercules eventually i believe.

 

Image how much it cost over all that time it was dragging through the legal system.

Wonder who paid his legal fees.

Us.

 

I agree with Tony:

British involvement in Afghanistan was not a "hopeless endeavour" despite the Taliban takeover, Tony Blair has said.

The former prime minister said the sacrifice made by UK troops - including those who died - "was not in vain".

Mr Blair said achievements in the country over the past 20 years - including a generation growing up without Taliban rule - was a "good cause" that "matters today".

 

But once again we have poked our noses into other countries dealings, and now they and us will pay the price, with yet another wave of refugees trying to find new countries to live in.

The population of some countries must actually be falling, while in western countries its increasing, it's our doing, but it cant go on.

 

That's Blair just trying to justify running someone else's for 20 yrs.

 

I was wrong. It looks like the Afghans are standing up and fighting for their country.

An anti-Taliban resistance group in Afghanistan says it has thousands of people ready to fight.

 

Bit late now .
Surely it is easier to defend some where than it is to recapture it.
Most of population of Afghanistan seem to be crowding on planes at the airport, I don't think many will be left.

 

On the contrary, it is important to see who comes out of that hole waving a Taliban flag before dispatching them all at once. Otherwise you beat the first few Taliban fighters and after that you have an unknown number who remain hidden, doing their guerilla thing.

 

Religion and greed have caused more wars than anything else in this world,

 

Think most look at Afghanistan as a recent (last 40 years) problem but by chance saw part of this program last night which shows how the British have invaded their country many times over the last century or so.
Many here think its the US thats the big aggressor, but seeing that program we did a lot worse.
BBC Two - Afghanistan: The Great Game - A Personal View by Rory Stewart

 

We know England was the most ruthless country centuries ago hence the empire, but now we're arguably one of the most cival soft one's.
For instance..
Three Islamic blokes beat up a gay couple badly in Birmingham last week but it's hardly shown on the news because we dare not offend their community. I'd prefer a society where EVERYONE is treated the same regardless of religion, colour or gender.

 

A noble wish. But sadly with more tolerance comes less tolerance. And the division into factions (gays versus Muslims versus old white men versus women versus people of colour versus supporters of a political party versus the rich versus the bikers) doesn't help either. People are social animals wanting to be inside a "we"-group. But this only works if there is a "them"-group as well. So if there are no external enemies (bad Nazis, US-Invadors, the Russians, Aliens) we look for internal enemies.

 

I think I agree with what you are saying.
There will always be certain tensions between different groups and parts of society, and the more you introduce the more tensions you will create.
I always say, you can change and create as many laws as you like, it won't change how people think.

I wonder why the powers that be only concentrate on tensions in certain areas while ignoring them in other areas of society.

 

For politics? Because certain groups give them votes, power or money.
So they support whichever group seems to be the most profitable.

Politician: "why support LGBTQIA+? They are a minority and don't vote anyways (according to studies)
And it would anger the old white men. And they have more power and WILL vote for us."

Corporation: "let's print rainbows on our products. This will make the LGB-whatevers buy our products and we will make money while others will continue to buy us because they need toilet paper - but only in wester countries!"