WHAT ARE WE DOING IN THE GARDEN TODAY - 2022

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  1. JimmyB

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    So we get English stuff @pete, but maybe the selection is a bit limited. I'm not familiar with the extent of the UK stocks. We've got a fair few garden centres - but only two types of peat free I think. I've got some pH balanced 'soil improver' from the local green recycling centre. I was wondering if I might try that?
     
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        I wouldn't use the soil improver stuff, it can be a bit iffy and is only really intended for spreading on the garden.

        I was looking, only looking at a local Wyvales compost area yesterday, I must say they had a really big range, but no offers and it ranged from £6 to £7 for a 60 ltr bag, a bit pricey I thought.

        Id just sieve, as you say, any lumpy stuff you come across if your seed sowing.

        Potting on I prefer it a bit lumpier, personally.



        Peat free is becoming more available here, but still a bit limited I find, I was looking at some yesterday that was a mix of peat free and JI, not seen that one before, might be worth a try.
         
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          It will not be a Wyevale G/C, they were sold in 2018. The Wyevale brand was short lived, it was know as the TGCG, the garden centre group until 2012 then it was sold to a private equity company called, Terra Firma and was rebranded to Wyevale.

          Wyevale is no more after selling last remaining stores to BGC (retailgazette.co.uk)
           
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            We visited the Blue Diamond garden centre in Guernsey @JimmyB when we visited a few years ago. They have a few centres near us in Surrey and seemed to think they stocked the same things but must admit not looking at the compost section. Maybe they have one on Jersey too.
             
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              Yeah I know that but most of them dont seem to have a recognisable name now since they changed so most people I know locally still call them wyevale.
              They look like Wyevales and the prices are like Wyevales so ...............
               
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                Didn't snap up half a dozen duty free bags then?;)
                 
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                  @JimmyB , St Peter’s garden centre on Jersey is a Blue Diamond centre and BD are making a big deal this season about having most of their compost peat free. We have a big BD centre nearby and they say they are getting peat free seed and cutting compost in shortly , wonder if yours is ?
                   
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                    Which? have tested this year's peat free composts. Their best ones for sowing seeds are:-

                    Top of the list getting a score of 85% is Fertile Fibre but almost impossible to get and at an enormous price. £24 for 60 litres delivered.

                    Next at 75% came Bathgate Multi-purpose at £7.75 for 50 litres
                    Next at 65% were B&Q GoodHome MPC at £6 for 50 litres and GoodHome MPC enriched at £6.50 for 50 litres.

                    For young plants:-
                    The GoodHome enriched got top score of 86%
                    Wilco Peat Free 80% £3 for 25 Litres
                    Bathgate MPC at 75%
                    Homebase MPC at 68%

                    For containers:-
                    Homebase MPC at 75%
                    Melcourt Sylvana at 70%

                    With peat composts:-
                    Homebase MPC came top for seed sowing at 79% and for young plants at 97%
                    This is £5.75 for 50 Litres but they had it on offer at our Homebase at 4 bags for £16 (limited time offer).

                    You might be able to get the full list by Googling, but not sure.
                     
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                      Don't you have to subscribe to which to actually see the results of their tests?

                      The GoodHome is now sold only through B&Q, the reviews on their site are worth a read.
                       
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                        B&Q own brand used to be Verve, do you think GoodHome is a rebranding exercise?

                        Seems many are complaining of fungus gnats in the GoodHome peat free compost.
                         
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                          Probably, Bord na Mona was packing the compost for them in the past under the Verve brand, don't know if they still pack for them or someone else is doing it for B&Q.

                          One of the reviews tickled me, they gave it 5 stars saying the compost was excellent as it grows lots of mushrooms.
                           
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                            Not necessarily. Some you do and some you don't. With some topics you can read the info in general but not all the data.

                            I think Goodhome may be Verve rebranded and have, for the last two years, bought the Verve with peat and found it good. All previous peat free composts I tried were not very good at all or there were watering problems with them. With the quantity of plants we grow we don't need the water retention, or opposite, problems that we found.

                            So this time I have bought the Homebase with peat and it seems OK and is at a good price. The offer on their website says it is now 3 x 50 litres for £10. At the quantities we use, and because it's for charity, price and quality is always a factor. We have been using around 6,000 litres a year but because of Covid that has dropped. The price factor made hundreds of pounds of difference.
                             
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                                I understand, we and commercial growers need to take into account costs. When using peat based or a high percentage, then you can move large volumes.

                                Below is an image showing a 6 cubic metre baled peat, as you can see, I can't even get it on our truck due to the height, the whole pallet weighs 1050kg.

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                                Growers will have these delivered in artic loads but they will already have the nutrients already blended. When I got delivery, there was 22 pallets in a high cube container, so 132 cubic metres all together, yet the wagon was underweight legally.

                                Now if that was soil based, John Innes, then I could only get 35 cubic metres on a truck due to the weight, extra trucks, results in extra cost per litre to move the compost, which has a knock on effect through the chain.
                                 
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