LATEST MOAN FROM YOU AND ME - 2022

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  1. pete

    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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    There was a lot more insects around when we were using the likes of DDT.

    All the newer insecticides seem to be leathal to all insect life.
     
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      We haven't used any for almost 50 years. :rolleyespink:
       
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        Living near the Sea I get quite a few Seagulls around so the birds that keep the Slugs & Snails at bay are few and far between sadly. I get many birds in my garden but not the ones I want.............So I use Slug pellets:mute:
         
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          I've seen thrushes eat snails and seen the odd crow trying to wipe the slime off of a slug before attempting to eat it.
          But other than that I think its a fallacy that birds eat many slugs and snails.
          Likewise, I'm yet to be convinced frogs eat slugs.
           
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            When I lived in a small village there were loads of Thrushes and no Slugs or Snails.
             
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              I've seen a lot of our garden birds eat slugs but not seen them eat snails. I've seen Blackbirds, Jays, robins and Magpies eat them.
               
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                Sadly the lack of insects is due to loss of diversity, changing farming practice and the general build up of man made chemicals in the environment as well as the efficiency of modern pesticides.
                 
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                  Neither have I, too mean I think.
                   
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                    I find the remains of snail shells where the thrushes have hammered the contents out. Do I ever see them, no never.
                    Toads take slugs and the ground beetles leave empty undamaged shells behind.
                     
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                      pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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                      A company, P&O, suddenly make hundreds of workers redundant on the spot.
                      My moan is, no one seems to be able to work out if what they have done is against the law.
                      How does our legal system, in this country, get its self into such a state that even they can't sort it out.
                       
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                        I suspect that the doubts arise because of things like where the ships are registered, where P&O are registered and in which country the contracts are enforceable.
                        P&O have probably gone over the legality very carefully and will be sailing as close to the limit as possible.
                        Having said that the whole affair is immoral and stinks to high heaven.
                         
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                          Nigel, that would suggest that when you work on board a foreign registered ship,that you come under the employment laws of that country.
                          I'm not sure but I thought I heard they were registered in Jersey?
                           
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                            @pete I was trying to think of possibilities of why it might not be illegal.
                            Also I really cannot see P&O or their owners not having had the lawyers crawling all over this since at least the beginning of the year.
                             
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                              They're registered in Jersey to avoid paying NI. The law has a disconnect meaning that the normal practice of notice etc doesn't apply. Strictly speaking, they broke no employment laws but I don't understand how that can be so but the Union can still apply.
                              In any event this is another case of big business being foolish as popular opinion will kill them off (expect full scale cancellations) even if the RMT doesn't. Even the agency workers are walking away from it!
                               
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                                They also took millions in government hand outs then paid a dividend and declared massive revenue. In my mind the government would be within its rights to require the grants repaid or equity in the business to the same value
                                 
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