Attractive fast growing Ornamental garden tree....

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  1. Shaneoak

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    Hi All,

    Was looking to buy a Attractive fast growing Ornamental garden tree. I'm thinking of the Norway variegated maple, snow queen/type of eucalyptus or Tibetan cherry bark tree.

    Do these have a fairly fast growing hait? Any other suggestions on nice trees?

    I havn't purchased a tree before and i hve had poor success purchasing plants online before. I don't want a small skinny stem sent, was looking for at least a 5 to 6 foot specimen. Have a 100 pound budget.

    Does anyone know of any good online sellers, or even better any local ones around the Leeds, Manchester, Liverpool kind of region...

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    A supplier that I can recommend is Mail Order Trees - I have a crab apple, a rowan and a sambucus from them, all nice trees. Their website is also well-designed, with good filters that let you narrow down your choice by selecting eventual size, season of interest, etc. etc.

    A word of caution - fast-growing trees usually want to end up as big trees, overshading your and your neighbours' gardens. Some of them also have invasive roots which can break drains, cause house subsidence, etc. etc. So think about how large a tree you have room for, and then do your research carefully :whistle:
     
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      Thank you. I will take alook. Good advice. I think the tibet cherry bark one is a small tree?
       
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      Lilac always looks and smells gorgeous, but has a fairly short flowering season.

      Clare is right about being careful where you plant a tree that will be very tall. I was impressed by a Himalayan silver birch, but you would need to plant one of those a long way from a house.

      A Hazel tree would have interesting catkins and even nuts. Hazel (Corylus avellana) - British Trees - Woodland Trust

      A cherry tree, maybe bird cherry, Bird Cherry (Prunus padus) planted far away enough from the house not to cause problems but with its top visible from an upstairs window could be fascinating for watching the birds eat the cherries.

      I think you can buy many trees from the Woodland Trust. They probably would give you lots of advice too.
       
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        This is an attractive tree (Betula Jacquemontii) and although it can grow tall and wide it has quite a wide open canopy and slim trunk so doesn't overshadow too much. The bark is a striking white colour. I don't know 'Mail Order Trees' but here is their info about them.

        They mention that Anglesey Abbey have a superb display of them and that they keep the bark looking so white by washing it. The head gardener there told me that they use washing up liquid. Even without that it looks good but it gradually shows the green algae that can grow on it. Hand washing is easy when they are smaller and a soft broom when they are bigger - doesn't need it done often, once every couple of years or so.

        The trees in this picture were planted in 1997 (from memory they were about 4ft at the time).

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        This shows the more open aspect of the canopy. I took the photo in September 2021
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        Betula Jacquemontii - White Stem Birch Tree

        Betula utilis subsp. jacquemontii | West Himalayan birch Trees/RHS Gardening
         
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          Oh wow! That is a beauty! Thank you. I have ordederd the
          Prunus serrula Tibetica - Birch Bark Cherry Tree
          , but i'm now tempted to cancel and order this as it seemsmore suitable for a small garden...i think. If anyone has any info on the
          Prunus serrula Tibetica - Birch Bark Cherry Tree
          , i would really appreciate it. I think my concern is that the tibetica is not suitable for a small garden and is too slow to reach height ...Thanks.
           
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          From what I know of that Prunus it has a beautiful bark but is slower to grow and it's canopy is wider and a lot less elegant.

          Both trees may need some judicious pruning to keep them from multi sprouting but Betula tends to have the more upright growth whereas Prunus has more multi stem growth. Multi stem is excellent for displaying the bark but not really suitable for small gardens. It can be pruned carefully to make it a single stem upright.

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            Thank you. They are both really pretty, but i agree without training the tibetica looks a bit messy and difficult. Unfortunately, they may just deliver this one, as i cannot get a response from them!
             
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            We planted a Prunus serrula Tibetica last year and it is doing well. It has gained a bit of height and girth and the bark has started to show as you would expect from a mature tree.
            I have bought trees from a number of nurseries but the best I have found is Ornamental Trees.
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            They delivered the tibetica today and i've decided to keep it. The branches look leggy and not thick though. Is this normal? I think i was expecting a single thickish trunk with a few branches...
             
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            Mine was like that as well. Here is a photo of it after planting in July last year.

            Tibetan Cherry 19-7-21.jpg
             
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              ah mine is similar


              i was expecting it to look a bit like this... prunus-serrula-tree-bark-detail.jpg
               
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              Drimys winterii is a beautiful ornamental tree with 4 season's interest. I have five of them now.
               
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                The bark on ours is like that this year.
                 
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                  Here is a picture, taken today, showing our Tibetan Cherry. You can plainly see the red bark on the stems.

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