Are these Ash trees?

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  1. ben 2343

    ben 2343 Apprentice Gardener

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    I have two trees growing closely together on my front drive. They are self seeded. They look like Ash to me but I not an expert. They are about the height of the house and have not stopped growing yet! I am a little concerned, as they are close to the house. I was hoping they might be some sort of ornamental or dwarf variety (there are others similar on the street which are smaller). But this one is getting bigger each year. Can anyone identify them? Leaves are on the two trees are similar to each other but one has brown fuzz on it rather than seeds. 20220918_174513.jpg 20220918_174150.MEDIUMc.jpeg 20220918_174203.MEDIUMc.jpeg 20220918_174441.MEDIUM(1)b.jpeg 20220918_174452.MEDIUMb.jpeg
     
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    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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    It does look like Ash.
    Probably best got rid of, most self seeded trees are usually problematic after a few years.
     
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      Yes get rid of them, they will become huge and cause problems for your house.
       
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        @ben 2343
        Don't think it's our native ash, leaves are wrong. Could be Fraxinus ornus the manna ash
        Would still get rid.
         
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        • pete

          pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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          I did think that the leaves of them was not quite right but the seeds tend to suggest an Ash of some kind.
           
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            Leaves seem to differ photo 3-4, Op says there are two trees. Agree that one seems likely to be Fraxinus ornus, it would be interesting to see photos of the bark of each, as this may assist. My other thought was Acer negundo ?
            Green unripe winged seeds of acer negundo tree
             
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              The seeds appear to only have one wing to me.
              There does seem to be variation between foliage but they are both very similar.
              Being self sown I'd be inclined to guess both seeds came from the same tree.
               
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                Fraxinus ornus is extremely rare in UK...very easy to id from the buds.
                3 and 4....Pics below ..shows a single leaf with leaflets. FRAXINUS  ORNUS 10-05-2022 08-34-42.JPG FRAXINUS  ORNUS 10-05-2022 08-34-54.JPG FRAXINUS  ORNUS 10-05-2022 08-35-44.JPG FRAXINUS  ORNUS 10-05-2022 08-35-54.JPG
                 
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                  See also above.
                  Pics below are Fraxinus excelsior.
                  Easy in winter by the buds.
                  4 and 5 show a single leaf with leaflets
                  FRAXINUS  EXCELSIOR  ASH 09-03-2018 14-58-29.JPG FRAXINUS  EXCELSIOR  ASH 09-03-2018 16-15-20.JPG FRAXINUS  EXCELSIOR  ASH 28-03-2018 10-40-57.JPG FRAXINUS  EXCELSIOR 17-06-2012 15-02-01.  SAMBUCUS  NIGRA  LEFT 17-06-2012 15-02-002.JPG FRAXINUS  EXCELSIOR 17-06-2012 15-02-17.JPG FRAXINUS  EXCELSIOR 17-06-2012 15-11-27.JPG FRAXINUS  EXCELSIOR 17-06-2012 15-11-36.JPG FRAXINUS  EXCELSIOR 23-07-2012 11-36-55.JPG
                   

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