Chopping up Kitchen Waste for Compost

Discussion in 'General Gardening Discussion' started by Madra, Nov 30, 2022.

  1. Madra

    Madra Apprentice Gardener

    Joined:
    May 31, 2022
    Messages:
    24
    Gender:
    Male
    Ratings:
    +8
    I have a lot of kitchen waste to compost and it's usually collected in a 30L Bin. I want to chop the waste up as small as I can and was thinking about emptying it into a wheelbarrow and chopping it with a spade.

    Would doing that introduce any toxic metals or the like from the chopping action against the wheelbarrow? Perhaps a plastic barrel would be better. I have an old blue barrel, but would that release microplastics?

    I know there are some Americans that use a drill and a paint mixer attachment to shred the material up. If I was to try this, would I have to get some kind of special food-safe bucket?

    This is an American product that looks interesting but is not on sale anymore.
     
  2. pete

    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2005
    Messages:
    51,017
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    Mid Kent
    Ratings:
    +93,654
    If its just vegetable waste I cant see why you cant chop it up anyway you want to really.
    I think you are probably worrying too much about contamination.

    Is this because you want to compost it yourself rather than have it collected.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Madra

      Madra Apprentice Gardener

      Joined:
      May 31, 2022
      Messages:
      24
      Gender:
      Male
      Ratings:
      +8
      Yes, it's all for adding to my compost pile but I'm trying to speed up decomposition as much as possible.

      There's usually a large amount of it and would like to try get it as small as the guy in that video
       
    • shiney

      shiney President, Grumpy Old Men's Club Staff Member

      Joined:
      Jul 3, 2006
      Messages:
      63,453
      Gender:
      Male
      Occupation:
      Retired - Last Century!!!
      Location:
      Herts/Essex border. Zone 8b
      Ratings:
      +123,698
      If it's normal vegetable/fruit kitchen waste I don't think it even needs chopping. Mine just goes straight onto the compost heap. Otherwise a nice big chopping knife would certainly be good enough.

      It depends on how quickly you want it to rot down. Mine is usually ready between six and twelve months.
       
      • Agree Agree x 5
      • pete

        pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

        Joined:
        Jan 9, 2005
        Messages:
        51,017
        Gender:
        Male
        Occupation:
        Retired
        Location:
        Mid Kent
        Ratings:
        +93,654
        If you can get the heap to warm up it will rot down fast enough, if it just stays cold all winter it will take longer, but if its just soft green kitchen waste I dont think chopping will make a massive difference.
         
        • Agree Agree x 2
        • Madra

          Madra Apprentice Gardener

          Joined:
          May 31, 2022
          Messages:
          24
          Gender:
          Male
          Ratings:
          +8
          I can't use a knife really as it would be about 30L of waste at a time. I do already try to chop things before I add to the bin but not everyone in the household does.

          I guess it's not really necessary then.
          Would chopping it into smaller pieces make any difference in how attractive it is to rats?
           
        • shiney

          shiney President, Grumpy Old Men's Club Staff Member

          Joined:
          Jul 3, 2006
          Messages:
          63,453
          Gender:
          Male
          Occupation:
          Retired - Last Century!!!
          Location:
          Herts/Essex border. Zone 8b
          Ratings:
          +123,698
          Do you already have trouble with rats? If you are using a closed bin then there shouldn't be any trouble. Open compost heaps are different. If you do have rats at open heaps then it's best to not add potato peelings - they like those.

          I don't think the size of the pieces make any difference.

          30 litres of waste at a time is quite a lot. We only get that in one go when we are cooking down buckets full of apples.
           
        • pete

          pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

          Joined:
          Jan 9, 2005
          Messages:
          51,017
          Gender:
          Male
          Occupation:
          Retired
          Location:
          Mid Kent
          Ratings:
          +93,654
          Are you rotting it down in the bin, or out in the open in the garden.
          Often people use this kind of stuff for wormeries, not tried them myself .
           
        • Madra

          Madra Apprentice Gardener

          Joined:
          May 31, 2022
          Messages:
          24
          Gender:
          Male
          Ratings:
          +8
          It was a plastic bin which wasn't any barrier for them because they just chewed into the corners and eventually just tunneled under it.

          I've built compost bays for pallets which aren't closed either, but at least now I can turn it over more and keep an eye on any activity better.

          A rat ventured into the shed when the door was open to try get at the dog's bowl. I live in a rural area and am surrounded on all sides by farms so there's always some knocking around. I purchased a Fenn trap and in two weeks have killed 11 rats.
           
          • Informative Informative x 1
          • shiney

            shiney President, Grumpy Old Men's Club Staff Member

            Joined:
            Jul 3, 2006
            Messages:
            63,453
            Gender:
            Male
            Occupation:
            Retired - Last Century!!!
            Location:
            Herts/Essex border. Zone 8b
            Ratings:
            +123,698
            I also live surrounded by fields. My compost heaps are open and right at the bottom of the garden. No rats venture further into the garden as they seem happy with the compost heaps.

            I suppose it depends on how far from the house and shed you are able to have it.

            I also, eventually, replaced the wooden shed near the house with a metal shed near the bottom of the garden.

            Some years ago we also had a cat that adopted us and set up home in the greenhouse. His preferred meal was rat! :biggrin:
             
            • Like Like x 1
            • john558

              john558 Total Gardener

              Joined:
              Feb 14, 2015
              Messages:
              2,522
              Gender:
              Male
              Occupation:
              Retired
              Location:
              Ramsgate, Kent
              Ratings:
              +8,948
              I chop any Veg waste as I go, it goes into a bucket with a lid outside the back door, when full it gets composted.
              We have F & Chips delivered each Saturday, all the paper and card goes in the bin.
               
            • pete

              pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

              Joined:
              Jan 9, 2005
              Messages:
              51,017
              Gender:
              Male
              Occupation:
              Retired
              Location:
              Mid Kent
              Ratings:
              +93,654
              I wouldn't say I'm overrun with rats but it not unusual to find the odd dead one now and then, not much survives the local cat population around here.
               
              • Like Like x 1
              • Jocko

                Jocko Guided by my better half.

                Joined:
                Jan 2, 2022
                Messages:
                2,417
                Gender:
                Male
                Occupation:
                Retired engineer. Now Vice CEO of the garden.
                Location:
                Danderhall on southern edge of Edinburgh. Zone 8a.
                Ratings:
                +6,782
                We do the same. Getting my other half to smash up the eggshells is my issue!
                 
                • Like Like x 1
                • Hanglow

                  Hanglow Super Gardener

                  Joined:
                  Oct 27, 2021
                  Messages:
                  834
                  Ratings:
                  +3,064
                  Same here, I take maybe 2 bucketsfull a week to my allotment. My pile has rats most years during winter, it doesnt bother me much. They get disturbed when i turn the pile. although I've just dumped a load of seaweed into it so hopefully they don't like that. I do trap them if they venture into the shed or greenhouse though.

                  As for chopping, anything woody gets chopped to about 4 inches. If it's soft veg/fruit I don't bother
                   
                  • Like Like x 1
                  • Esoxlucius

                    Esoxlucius Gardener

                    Joined:
                    Oct 21, 2022
                    Messages:
                    267
                    Gender:
                    Male
                    Location:
                    Lancs, UK.
                    Ratings:
                    +292
                    Kitchen waste/scraps, by definition, are usually already "chopped up" to a degree from the process of preparing the vegetables or whatever.

                    Further size reduction simply isn't necessary. Throw the scraps in your compostor and allow mother nature to do the rest. What's the rush?

                    The only item I'll further "prepare" are bunches of dead flowers. The long stalks can be annoying so I'll chop them down to more manageable lengths.
                     
                    • Like Like x 2
                    Loading...

                    Share This Page

                    1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
                      By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
                      Dismiss Notice