Battery charger for Start & Stop car

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    Another vote for the Ctek here - had the MX5.0 with quick connector fitted to the battery for three and a half years I've had the car. Easy just to plug it in once in a while and it keeps everything happy, particularly with the charging strategies that modern cars use.
     
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      Do you have to remove the terimals from the battery?
       
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      Or, you could go for a car starter - I've had one for a couple of years now - the starter itself is the size of two boxes of cigarettes - I just leave it in the boot of the car.

      I had an older battery in my other car and the starter saved my bottom on a couple of occassion

      As the car is charging the battery then I reckon a car starter is the way to go - it gives peace of mind - when the battery does fail - you have the starter in your back pocket ready to start the car and get you to Halfords.
       
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        Depends on the car - on mine, yes I had to. On my mum's Honda Jazz, it was a case of loosening a nut, sliding the eyelet over the bolt and tightening the nut back up for each terminal - battery stayed connected throughout.

        What car are you fitting to?
         
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          PS - if anyone does find themselves in the unfortunate position of needing a battery, I would highly recommend Tayna Batteries

          The likes of Halfords, ATS, Kwik-Fit etc will cost you near on double what you would pay from Tayna and they send the battery overnight to you, so you don't have to wait long.
           
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            Hi @Jiffy no you don't have to remove the terminals, just undo the nuts, pop on the eyelets, redo the nuts and you are good to go.

            CONNECT EYELET M6

            There are two sizes M6 and M8 so if you go for ctek make sure you get the right size connector.
             
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                Halfords only have their own brand in that particular size at just over £200, so not as much of a saving as such, but still not to be sniffed at.
                 
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                  Dont you need some way of keeping the main electrical functions of the car running these days, when changing a battery?
                   
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                    Again, depends on the car, but the general answer is no. The one common issue to doing it yourself is that you cannot 'code' the battery to the car (basically tell the car it has a new battery) so the BMS might be rather unhappy and prevent things such as stop/start from working. If you or someone you know has a suitable code reader, then it can be done quite quickly.
                     
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                      I'm just basing it on when the RAC put a new battery on for me, might have cost a bit more but the radio still worked and even the clock was still right.:biggrin:
                      I'm sure there might have been other stuff that it stopped me having to sort out.

                      I wouldn't mess with a battery in my car these days.
                       
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                        Modern cars are a pain for DIY maintenance, that is for sure - hell, you can't even replace rear brake pads on a lot of cars yourself now, unless you have the computer to back the calipers off. However, this is actually all the more reason to use something like the Ctek units - quite common for cars that have not had them used to knacker a battery in only a few years, whereas using one can extend that to 8 or 9 years. It is the charging strategies set up to save fuel that are the issue.
                         
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                          Some cars lose the radio code if you disconnect the battery; if you don't have it, it can be a pain to get it. More modern cars store the radio code in the ECU or BMS (or one of the many computers a modern car has), so no radio code is needed unless the radio is moved to another vehicle.
                          I just bought a pack of Brass M6 nuts, which is the size used on battery clamps, so I just put the eyelets on the clamp screws and put the second nut on the end of the screw. On both cars I have used this on there was more than enough thread left protruding from the original nut, but even if there is not, you just need a couple of threads for the nuts to grip. As long as it holds it secure enough for a good electrical connection.
                           
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                            Regarding exchanging a battery. As long as the battery you fit has the same Ah capacity and the same chemistry (WET, GEL-, VRLA-, AGM-) then recoding is unnecessary. If you fit a bigger or smaller battery or change the type then, in some cars, recoding is advised.
                             
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                            I swapped a new battery into my volvo with stop/start last year. Easy peasy, no need for a radio code but that may be different on other makes. The only difficulty was lifting it into position, they weigh a lot more these days. Might pay to get it done next time as I also had the job of taking the old one to the dump.
                             
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