Electric cars.

My point was that Governments and environmentalists dont exactly have a good track record on telling us what is best for us, as often its just based on some thinking that is flawed, just looking back to the Diesel idea that they tried to push on to us.

How long before the EVs being made now are suddenly found out to be environmentally unfriendly and everyone has to change to a different kind.
Its not like it done in the usual way of development as it used to be, now they set targets and say you will do this by a certain date etc.

Going back to light bulbs, those old coiled things were absolute rubbish IMO, they even had to warm up, reminds me of the TVs we had that needed their valves to warm up, LEDs are much brighter watt for watt.

 

Batteries belong in a torch or a cordless drill/ tool.
Not flying along the motorway at 70+mph.

 

You wait until they get electric planes; already have electric drones.

 

That's all we need, things falling out the sky.
You just have to wonder why Health and Safety are not involved in this kind of thing as they are in most things and have meddled in all kinds of stuff.


I think FC pointed this out earlier in the thread.

Would I get on an electric plane, not sure really.

 

The cheapest ICE Corsa based on the following.

47 monthly payments
£185.18
Initial payment
£1,111.08
(6 x monthly payments + £0.00 fees)
(All prices inclusive of VAT)

• Vehicle value *£18,970.00
• Finance type Personal Contract Hire

• Annual mileage 8,000
• Excess mileage Details on application
• Road tax Included
• Maintenance Optional £40.06 p/m
• Stock status In stock
• Total Lease Cost:£9,814.54

The cheapest fully electric Corsa based on a 4 year contract.

47 monthly payments
£362.91
Initial payment
£2,321.46
(6 x monthly payments + £144.00 fees)
(All prices inclusive of VAT)

• Vehicle value *£34,025.00
• Finance type Personal Contract Hire

• Annual mileage 8,000
• Excess mileage Details on application
• Road tax Included
• Maintenance Optional £27.19 p/m
• Stock status In stock
  Delivery within 1 month
• Total Lease Cost:£19,378.23

To put it into context, purchasing an electric Corsa would loose you as much money in one year compared to taking out a 4 year personal contract hire on an ICE version.

 

Yes. Must be the same lot that let Europe fight WW1 and then developed Penicillin.

 

I dont get what you mean, WW1? Penicillin?, not ringing any bells regarding light bulbs.

 

Similar way to they do with existing batteries, warranty length, price, no of recharge cycles possible, life in general.

No reason why you shouldn't if you don't mind a bigger heavier vehicle, or your four seater becomes two.

 

Hi,

Going on holiday and driving an EV; did you see the massive queues waiting to charge their milk float; as more EV's come online will the grid cope in winter with such an increased demand for electricity; about ten years ago we had regular power cuts here although none since; will we be heading into power cuts in future.

Living in a flat a mile in the sky will prove challenging to charge an EV as will those living in terrace houses without driveway just front door straight into the street; even those with a charger at home is it safe to leave an EV on charge overnight in a garage whilst occupants are asleep; we never had these problems with ICE cars; yes a few fires but these could be put out before the house or street burned down. Will increasing EV numbers put up electricity prices; I don't trust our government one bit.

One good point on a YouTube video; Sydney Opera House has only one entrance into it's massive lower car park; great if an EV self ignites. Repair shops need half a mile all around a parked EV just in case it self destructs; the list of problems is huge; our lovely ICE Yeti sits quietly on our driveway looking rather pleased with itself because we love it so much; 5 minutes to fuel it then it will go to Mars and back unlike the horror stories on YouTube of having to go for a drink and meal whilst a battery charges up assuming a charger is available and worse still not broken. Connecting a charger in a blizzard and paying by card with frozen hands out in the open because chargers don't even have a roof over them; perhaps no roof because of risk of fire? All good fun for EV owners. Increased tyre wear and extra energy required to haul around half ton of battery on every journey; my own view is the lunatics are now in charge of the asylum but then they have been for about ten years.

What kind of car is it having a battery which shouldn't be drained below 20% or charged above 80%; 40% unusable even on a brand new EV; fact or fiction?

It's regular here to have queues miles long on the motorway network due to accidents; in winter when it's absolutely freezing using heating; headlights etc and hoping to make it home having already run the battery down below 20% stress levels must go ballistic; one slight bonus is the blanket that is carried in case of EV fire can be used to keep warm with?

How many scrap yards currently accept EV's?

Just a few thoughts.

Kind regards, Colin.