What's buzzing or flying near you 2023 ?

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  1. Sheal

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    Yes Lori, I was reading an article on it a couple of days ago, it's madness. If birds were called by their Latin names like plants there wouldn't be a problem.

    I believe it's only America at the moment and hope we don't go down the same road here.
     
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      Yes, it's a stupid idea. I've never thought about the origin of a bird's name and can't, off the top of my head, think of one that may be named after someone. Of course, I rarely get past calling it a little bird or a big bird with whatever colour head or body :heehee:

      An example they have given is "Hammond's Flycatcher". I wouldn't be the slightest bit interested in who Hammond was, if I'd ever heard of it!

      Latin type name of another bird:- The genus Sayornis is a small group of medium-sized insect-eating birds, known as phoebes named after Thomas Say. :rolleyespink:

      Apparently the American Ornithological Society has spent years discussing this matter. :doh:

      Do we actually have birds named after people or is it just an American thing?
       
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        They seem concerned about offending certain people but they mean nothing to us here. The only British bird I can think of with someone's name is the Cetti's Warbler. Some other countries have names of people such as Von Der Decken's Hornbill and Fischer's Starling in kenya.
         
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          Greenshank.
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          Brent Goose.
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          Oystercatchers.
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            I often wonder how the common names of birds are picked here in Britain. Taking two of @strongylodon's shots above into consideration.

            Greenshank - I can't see any green?
            Oystercatcher - I've watched hundreds of these birds and never seen one catch an oyster. :biggrin:
             
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              It was wading in the mud so it was a Greyshank!!!:biggrin:
               
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                Bird rescue!

                He flew into a window and ended up unconscious, on his back, on the patio. Mrs Shiney went into animal rescue mode (she gets called by people who have injured/unconscious birds and tries to help them) and, using a pipette dropped some Rescue Remedy (suitably diluted) into its mouth. It became conscious and she then gave it some other gentle treatment and continued to hold it until it pooped on her hand :).

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                She then let it sit on her hand, outdoors, checked its legs and waited to see whether it would fly away.
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                Although it had perked up it still sat there for another ten minutes. After that she sat it in a hanging basket
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                It was still sitting there five minutes later so she picked it up and carried it over to the trees where it flew up into the willow tree.

                Another successful rescue.

                The nicest rescue was when she was called to the next village where a dog had caught a Kingfisher and it was unconscious. After she revived it the bird stayed on her hand for ten minutes and then flew down to the river, at the bottom of that garden, then flew back and flew round her head three times before going back to the river. :wub2:
                 
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                  Your lady works miracles...
                  my best wishes to you both ,
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                    On the subject of name changes in the US, four wind blown birds I have seen here all have a person's name.
                    Wilson's Phalarope, Forster's Tern, Franklin's Gull and Sabine's Gull. I wonder what names they will end up with?
                     
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                      I've just looked those up @strongylodon and the names are connected to ornithologists or similar. The problem which has arisen in America is the peoples names that have been chosen for birds are connected to slavery, racism etc.
                       
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                        The thing is by hiding the past it is just swept under the carpet and everyone forgets about it, we should be learning from past mistakes not trying to sanitise history.
                         
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                          You can change the latin names but how do you change the common names.
                          They have changed twitter to X, but every time I hear it mentioned the statement is X formerly known as Twitter, so what was the point in changing something then having to explain ever time you mention it. :biggrin:
                           
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                            I's all newspapers and other media feeling they have to explain... "X" is well known to anyone who hasn't been locked alone in a dark cell in total silence and fed gruel for the last 3 1/2 months. It is interesting that X, a second-level internet domain name, was used nearly 25 years ago, as the name of an online bank. Guess who owned/owns the domain name "x.com"? Yes! One Mr Musk! "X" now redirects to Twitter, leading me to wonder about whether or not the name really was in fact independently suggested by a third party. The online bank has, by various changes, morphed into Paypal.
                             
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                              A drake Wigeon in winter plumage, thousands here now.
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                                Oh, I really like the wing shading however my favourites are the ones that have a dash of colour here and there.

                                Those oystercatchers above have such vivid beaks and "eyeliner" :)
                                 
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