garden restoration - when to prune/hack back questions

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  1. Sian in Belgium

    Sian in Belgium Total Gardener

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    Finally, we drop down 6’ to the lower, sloping garden.

    Here’s a close-up of the conifer hedge, as requested
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    … and what it looks like in all its glory
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    It’s at its narrowest here, where it has to be cut back for the access gate. Around 3’ deep, I reckon
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    the variegated dogwood - clearly now is when you prune it, to cut off all those pesky red stems!!!
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    The outer edge is around 4’ high, banking up into the middle. IMG_4679.jpeg



    Most of the lower garden is like this underfoot - nettles and borage everywhere, with holes/cracks/?rat-runs making it quite treacherous to walk on. I am hoping that regular cutting will restore some normality, as well as enabling the hundreds of cowslips to flourish.
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      That conifer hedge looks like Lawson's cypress, or leylandii and neither of them will rejuvenate from hard cutting back. Unless you need it as a wind-break, or for privacy, I'd get rid. There are so many attractive, manageable alternatives.
      As the Cornus stems aren't at their best, there's nothing much to lose by attacking it now? :) How about taking out all the wispy stuff and just leave some strong stems, a third of which could be pruned properly in spring?
      Don't envy you the nettles! I'd be very tempted to do a weed'n' feed and take a chance on the cowslips coming back from dormant seed.
       
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        Well that's one job that won't need doing again.
         
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          I think the gardener either needs his/her marching orders or some lengthy lessons from you Sian. :)
           
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            I know - I get really upset by it.
            The problem is, whist the property is mostly empty, some work, even bad work, is better than nothing. I am only here for 3 months of the year. Often he doesn’t come if he sees our car in the drive, and puts off his visit… When we finally move in, I will try to take him under my wing and teach him about pruning. If he takes it on board, great, otherwise it will be marching orders!
             
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              Just dont let him have anything with a motor or engine.
               
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                I don't know about the conifer , I am not the biggest fan as I think they always create a dead zone below them , but if you were to remove them you would want to remove as much of the roots as possible as conifer roots don't break down that fast , also you would need new soil for new hedging, as fruit trees research varitys that are suited best to your growing conditions sometimes old local varitys are the best , also look for apple trees with good disease resistance it's easyer that having to spray all the time , I see a garden centre in the county called pengethley garden centre maybe start there see what they have
                 
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                Thank you @Bear1 . Yes, I don't like conifers either, so an excuse to replace it with a native mixed hedge would be good. The soil is very good, and topped up regularly with fresh goodness from the river at least once a year...
                There are loads of local apple trees (but mainly cider types) as well as plum and Damson, (often growing wild in the hedgerows). I have never sprayed an apple tree yet, so don't plan to start now!
                Pengethley Garden Centre is good, but I think they buy in the trees... I can always ask there
                 
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