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  1. shiney

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    I don't have a smart meter and don't want one. I know too many people who have had problems with them - don't really want one even if they didn't have problems :heehee:.

    I send up my readings each month and have the correctly priced bill within two days.

    We don't have 'smart' things in the house as we think that two are sufficient - Mrs Shiney first and then me :roflol:. Those two seem to be able to manage the house quite well for everything we need.

    We don't want engineers in, if we can help it, and never have our meters read.
     
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      I've got smart meters, it's easier.
      The gas meter is at ground level and I have to lie on my stomach to see it, and shine a torch into the cupboard ... then it's a struggle to get up and I have to hold on to the furniture.
      The electric meter is at ceiling height and I can't see it without going up a ladder, and I get dizzy and can't come down.
       
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        I like my smart meters, no more grovelling in a dark cupboard same as Michael says above. Plus no longer having to let grumpy smelly strangers into the house to read the dumb meters.
         
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          My meters are in a cupboard under the stairs, I can see and read both, that's, 3 really as I have economy 7, from a standing position, so its not so bad.
          I cant remember how many years ago they last sent someone round to read them, must be 6 yrs or so.
          The reason I was thinking of getting a smart meter was I'm not sure I'm gaining with the Economy7 as its way out on timing and I get my cheaper rate electric for 7 hours after 9am,:scratch:, the meter has just got itself like that.
           
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            My meters are in our coat cupboard straight in front of us, so it's just a matter of opening the door to see them.

            No meter readers come here. I think we have come to an agreement (unwritten) that they don't come because they only want to offer a time within a four to eight hour window and I have insisted that they can only have a 30 minute window. I also have an agreement (this is in writing) that I will not be given a smart meter.

            They told me that I was being unreasonable and I said that they were :roflol:. If my doctor, dentist and chiropractor can see me within a range of five minutes then a meter reader should be able to at least do 30 minutes. :whistle: Take it or leave it! :old: We ended up agreeing that I send my own readings in. :blue thumb:

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              Someone has asked me how I have got away with not having the meter read. It followed a legal discussion on right of entry. I agreed that they are entitled to come in to read the meter - but only at a time that is convenient. I argued that their time window wasn't reasonable and to help them narrow that window to something that was suitable for me they could make their visit the first one of the day. Their meter reading department couldn't agree to that but their legal department did agree that it was a reasonable demand. :thumbsup:
               
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                You are very fortunate from what everyone else says.

                Both our meters, water and electricity, are outside our house, which I think is normal here.
                 
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                  Don't think they see me within 5 minutes of the appointment time. The doctor can be anything up to an hour late, I don't think it's their fault, more likely previous patients being late or taking longer than the alloted 10 minutes. The doctor only allows one ailment to be discussed per appointment, if it's two issues we have to book a double appointment.
                   
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                    I cannot even imagine that but our appointments are longer than ten minutes. Actually, on one occasion with my Surgeon followup and another with my Neurologist, J asked advice on issues HE had. The Surgeon did say if he wanted to take it further about an operation on his elbow to make an appointment, which would have been within a month. All our appointments are Private now by choice. The Neurologist made a suggestion.
                     
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                      Mine are outside, my house was built in 1984 and since around then all new build houses have had outside meters.
                       
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                        Mrs Shiney had an appointment the other day and they called her in almost 2 minutes late!

                        After our local surgery had a lot of problems, which was followed by some public meetings and a report to the quality care commission, the surgery has now got itself sorted out pretty well. They have a totally new telephone system which rarely has you holding on for more than ten minutes - used to regularly be up to an hour. They also have a notice saying they can discuss more than one ailment. Appointments are ten minutes but used to be six :rolleyespink:.

                        One of the problems, apart from old telephone system and poor organisation, was that they had taken on much too many patients. They now have two more doctors, two more back office staff and a new practice manager. They also now have a manager in their dispensary who makes sure that it runs smoothly. She was one of the eight dispensers but now has a management role.

                        Although in a village it takes patients from a number of other villages (no surgeries in them) so they need a large dispensary.
                         
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                          I have had appointments with both GP and hospital doctors were we have been talking for 10 to 20 minutes, last week I spent 15 minutes with my GP. There again I have been in and out in 5-10 minutes. Have been to the cardiology clinic at the hospital and in and out in 20 minutes, including ECG, weight and height and a chat with the specialist.
                           
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                            It's different using the private healthcare system here too. I had no choice last year with my hernia op, the NHS might have been 18 months and in all likelihood longer so I had to go private. It's a completely different experience compared to the NHS. I saw a private consultant within a week and appointments were all on time and took as long as necessary to explain the options. I was operated on within a month. It's just how the NHS used to be many years ago, the irony is the private consultants all work for the NHS and do this private work on the side. I would have had the same people doing my operation maybe 18 months later for free.
                             
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                              Actually it is the same here with our SNS where they on occasion pass over to private. I know my hip/knee Surgeon has never worked SNS but recently discovered my breast cancer Surgeon now works at the private hospital we use and I will book with her there for my checkup (not sure if she is at the SNS Hospital any more anyway). We don't have insurance but costs are reasonable/sensible and we like being in control.

                              On a Portuguese forum I visit there are moans about the SNS doctors with it taking weeks to get an appointment or go to the clinic ,sit and wait and take a ticket, and that it is a year or so wait for ops for knees and hips.
                               
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                                I pay 12.50 a month and get a kind of halfway house, the GP can refer you directly to the the private hospital and they do the job and send the bill to the NHS.
                                Obviously it only works on run of the mill type jobs and it's probably not quite as fast as going directly private but much faster than going just NHS.
                                I know someone in my street who has been waiting for a knee op for 2 yrs now I've had both mine done in that period.
                                 
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