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    Good morning
    I m new to the forum,I recently bought 2 bags of Levington multi purpose peat free compost with added john innes and transplanted my 2nd batch of bizzy lizzy seedlings ,and as of yesterday they were all dead ,i ve already done one batch a couple of weeks ago in PEAT compost and they are thriving and they had same conditions in the conservatory,i m now nervous or unwilling to use the peat free for any other seedlings or the hanging baskets or any potting.Has this been a post on the forum before or has anybody else had this issue its very annoying,i contacted levington yesterday for a response just to see if it was a bad batch.
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      Good morning @glenj and welcome to GC :sign0016:

      It seems that almost anything can make it's way into compost nowadays and the peat free stuff doesn't seem to have that little bit extra that is needed to support young plants and seedlings.

      As it happens, I am just about to buy a whole load of compost, top soil and fertiliser and there is a deal of anxiety in doing so, lest I get saddled with a whole load of expensive yet useless stuff.
       
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        I don't think I'd use a J. Innes mix for seedlings. Perhaps it was simply too heavy for them. :smile:
         
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          Sounds quite drastic, lots of people say peat free doesn't grow plants as well as peat based, but just wondering if yours is contaminated with something.
           
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            I also wonder - could they have got fried? Conservatories can be searingly hot at this time of year, even if it's not that sunny.
             
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              I have used Peat free for all my sowing and pricking out this year, and so far no problems, except for judging water requirements. The compost often looks dry, but feeling the weight of pots/trays, it is not.
               
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                The last few days has been too hot for my seedlings, I have some indoors on a south facing window and some in a greenhouse. It's got over 31C in the greenhouse yesterday so I've had to shade my seedlings otherwise they would get frazzled. I guess that is what has happened @glenj ? Is your conservatory south facing and getting very hot?

                My tougher seedlings are outside during the day, I would class bizzy lizzy as tough (but not frost hardy) and would definitely have them outside during the day, maybe bringing them in if frost forecast overnight.

                Peat compost does hold on to moisture longer so maybe your peat-free ones just dried out in the heat?
                 
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                Blimey, I've not got much in the greenhouse at the moment, but must check on them shortly as I didn't realise that temps would be so high in there. The stuff in there is just sort of lobbed in there at the moment as i need to clean it out (it is being used as shed overflow currently)
                 
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                Even in my kitchen on sunnier days at this time of year it can get to around 22 or 23 degrees for a while [south east facing] and I pull the blinds down when it's like that.
                I don't have much sown until early April, but they're on those windowsills for the best light, and that big swing of temps can really shatter tiny seedlings and plants.
                 
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                  Not many are getting fantastic results with peat free compost. I've tried it and was impressed with the texture and usage but performance was bleak, nothing grew in it!
                   
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                    I think Jack's Magic is about the best peat free one I have used - that was a few years ago though, admittedly
                     
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                    You need a cheap thermometer in there preferably with a display in the house to monitor extremes. It really helps with my tiny lean to one. As I would never think I need to put my shade cloth on when it's needed.

                     
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                      I have been using Melcourt Sylvagrow peat free for 3 years. Use it for seedlings, large pots containing roses, growing tomatoes in pots, mini cucumbers in pots, potatoes in bags and when planting shrubs in the borders. It is excellent . Nothing has failed . Unfortunately, it is not available across the country and it is expensive compared to the widely available run-of-the-mill stuff.
                       
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                        Can't say I have heard of it, but will look out for it
                         
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                        It isn't readily available everywhere [Sylvagrow]
                        Nearest stockist for me is a 45 min drive away.
                         
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