Latest Moan From You and Me 2024

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  1. ViewAhead

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    Yes, we need a housing readjustment. If young people can't get on the ladder and are still renting when they reach retirement, the whole pension system will collapse. You need about 70% home ownership to keep the system afloat. Older home owners living longer before passing on assets and younger people forced to rent well into middle age and beyond, so never building up any wealth they can draw on later, is a perfect storm waiting to break.
     
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      A lot of the problem is the type of building they are doing - certainly around here - being nothing but flats. Of course, that gives a lot of housing in a relatively small footprint, but the pressure that density of housing puts on just about every service imaginable is quite incredible. It is almost as though we've learned nothing from the 60's and 70's
       
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      • pete

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        Yeah, we get the cul-de-sacs with the big houses in the out of town areas, the town ones are usually Nelson Mandela House type places with no parking spaces but still far too expensive for a matchbox on a pile of rubble that will be a ghetto in two years.

        Just where I live the 1950s shopping area is being demolished to "improve" the area, high rise flats over shops and high density housing.
        The flats in the area that are there now are two storey with lots of green spaces.
         
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          Folks are being crammed in like sardines, and then we wonder when the youths start rampaging about with knives etc... its just lunacy.
           
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            I think they would still be rampaging with knives, its part of their society these days, they dont appreciate green spaces anymore, they are not brought up with it.
            There is more to it but not something you can talk about here.
             
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              You can’t appreciate green spaces unless they’re a part of your life … :sad:
               
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                Wow another ?
                 
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                • pete

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                  Been used for meeting places for drug dealers in recent times, they were used by the kids for football and mostly playing in general years ago.
                  Times have changed.

                  But I agree, we need more greenspaces, but they just get built on, most schools have no playing fields hardly these days as the schools have expanded their buildings, one around here now has a massive car and coach park where the fields were.

                  A green space is just looked upon as wasted space these days.
                   
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                  I won't vote for any in my area for many reasons.
                   
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                  It isn't quite so bad here. We have our village hall, with kitchens, and polling day is not allowed to affect any hirings of the hall. There is a small side room that has sufficient space for them to use for polling with enough room for four polling booths and four officials at tables (they never have more than three).

                  They have to put up with any noise from hirers of the main hall of which the noisiest is usually some of the keep fit clubs with their loud music.

                  As voting is always done here on a Thursday we have never had it clash with a wedding. :blue thumb:

                  The authorities are told that if they don't like our terms they can find somewhere else :whistle:. They have never argued and I have been opening the hall for them at 6 a.m. for the last 50 years.
                   
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                  Sorry to be a killjoy everyone but can we have the latest moan thread back please? Perhaps those wishing to discuss the election further can start a new thread for it. :)
                   
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                  • RowlandsCastle

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                    But surely the election process IS a moan - and one of the latest ones.

                    Of course, there may be some people who actually enjoy the process. Many of those are called MPs, or prospective MPs.

                    Happy days!!
                     
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                      Yes it is a moan and I'm moaning because this discussion is dominating the thread and other members alternative moans are being overlooked.
                       
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                      • DiggersJo

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                        Yes, but it's such a big MOAN it needs its own thread... Not from me because I can't be ..... to find out how to start it off - and perhaps too late!
                         
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                          @shiney voting in France and Belgium is on Sundays. Community halls are owned and managed by the local council who also have to run the elections. We lost our Monday patchwork etc meeting on June 10th because they were still dismantling after the EU elections on the 9th. Last session on the 24th for us so national elections on June 30th and July 7th for the re-run won't affect us.
                           
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