Bare root roses, what should I expect

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    I have a Euatacia Vye in a big half barrel. Planted it June last year. I can't believe how well it has done. I hope this doesn't grow behind it's limits either
     

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      Looking very good actually, plenty of room in that pot.
       
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        I grow all my roses in big pots and they are all doing well. A bit of extra care is needed but good soil and plenty of food and water and they are happy and beautiful.
         
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          Sorry to bring this post back to life. I thought I'd share some photos and see what you think

          So - the first one is a sheltered isle, planted bare root last autumn. It threw out a few blooms, but doesn't appear the healthiest compared to pictures 2&3 (gentle Hermione and generous gardener). These seem to have really flourished - both sending strong new stems up from the ground with lots of healthy looking growth. These were both planted early spring, bare root.

          The soil is the same, the feed and watering and improvements are the same. Used mycorrhizal fungi the same etc.. Why such a difference? Or is my sceptered isle more of what you expect from a year 1 rose, and the others have just done much better?

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          Hi,

          I think it's a combination of things. The Generous Gardener is a vigorous climber and Gentle Hermione is a large shrub, more so than Scepter'd Isle, so I'm not surprised that the growth is not as fast. Different roses grow at different rates anyway e.g. my Emily Bronte took a while to establish itself -and that's normal for her - whereas The Country Parson was a little rocket.

          Having said that, there are some yellow leaves which could indicate a bit of disease or that it's not fully happy with something. I would remove the yellow leaves to promote new growth and keep an eye on it. The top part of the plant looks very healthy and overall I wouldn't worry too much about it.
           
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          @Nickoslesteros , do you remember what your bare root Sceptered Isle looked like on receipt?
          Good bare roots from DA should have at least 3 -4 strong, healthy canes and a long, healthy looking root system.
          I have sometimes found some rose purchases look less robust than others (and am too lazy to return them) . They take longer to establish and can look a bit ropey in their first year.

          Some rose enthusiasts on the old GW rose thread were advocating used tea leaves (sans bags)
          as a mulch around rose stems to ward off insect attacks instead of spraying. If I remember rightly, the theory was that the rose takes up the tannin ? from the tea leaves which the insects apparently don't like the taste of so leave the roses along. I tried it all last year and didn't seem to have many problems. Unfortunately it doesn't cure black spot as well!
          Warning - it is a bit tedious collecting used tea bags, waiting till they are dry then tearing the bags open. On the other hand, it's recycling at its finest.
           
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          @CostasK I've removed those leaves, thanks for that. Hopefully it will look better in a few weeks

          @lizzie27 I can't remember what that rose looked like, but I do remember some looking weedier than others. I do recall generous gardener had roots like a tree!! All of my bare roots had 3 canes as a minimum. I also got 3 Susan William Ellis. They look perfectly healthy - in fact pristine, just small. Maybe they will kick in to growth in their second proper year.
           
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