Separate Moan Thread About The Election

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  1. gks

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    Has the ban on oversea nationals buying property in New Zealand solved the housing issue, probably not.

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    https://www.oneroof.co.nz/news/nzs-...ld-more-houses-if-theres-no-money-in-it-44030

    With being out of the EU, then the UK could probably have more stringent restrictions on oversea nationals compared to countries within the EU.

    for an EU Member State to restrict non-residents from purchasing properties, there must be "overriding reasons of general interest" recognised in the case law of the Court of Justice of the European Union (CJEU).

    I very much doubt there is sufficient evidence that the purchase of property by oversea investors is a major contribution to the UK's housing issues.
     
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      Setting housing targets is easy, they just pluck a figure out of the air and then dictate to the local authority how many they have to build.
      It then becomes a local problem trying to find suitable land to use.
      What appears to happen around here is the councils come up with land right on their boundary which then kind of annoys the neighbouring council.

      But the government have done their bit, so job done, cross that one off the list.
       
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        Biden has shown his sage advice to Keir Starmer in suggesting the UK move closer to the EU... Which is already his plan.
         
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          When I first married The Isle of Thanet had 3 small villages surrounded by
          farm land. Today with the massive house building on farm land these villages
          will very soon disappear.
           
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            We have 6,000 houses just starting to be built about a mile up the road. It's on green belt prime agricultural land. They have also put up a massive Amazon warehouse for us all to look at. The housing will be like a new town being built on the side of Sutton Coldfield.

            We have been given a survey about traffic, which suggests we should not use cars. They are designating it as a green travel area. On your bike I say.

            And what about these new towns that Labour are threatening the country with. Will they compulsory purchase the poor farmers land? It is irreversible damage to the countryside.
             
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              Me, back with those pesky numbers and facts again...

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              So, to deliver that 1.5 million houses is 300,000 per year. Break that down:

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              Now, if you really believe that we are able to build, and put into use, 5,769 every week for the next five years, drop me a private message please as I have a bridge that I'd like to sell to you.
               
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                All the housing development around here as also meant that the outter villages have been swallowed up.
                I'm glad I live in a house that is nearly 80 yrs old, at least it was built properly and with space and garden around it.

                Although most people around here have added extensions that go to the boundary because nobody seems to want garden any more.
                They then lose any means of getting anything around to the back of the house apart from taking it through the house, and often bother a neighbour if it's something in a wheel barrow.
                 
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                  Why are they all competing to build the most number of homes? Even the Lib Dems say 1.9m. And then they call it growth!
                   
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                  They are suggesting it will solve the housing crisis.
                  But it won't ever catch up if the population of the country keeps rising like it is.

                  The other thing is what parts of the country are going to bear the brunt.
                   
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                    It's not just housing though, there will need to be more schools, gp surgeries, community centres, allotments etc etc. Very little gets built here in Guildford the nimbys stop all but development on existing sites. Big old houses and small terraces are pulled down to be replaced by blocks of flats with little to no parking.

                    I'm all in favour of a proposed development on our doorstep as it includes a new gp surgery that we could walk to. It's green belt so doesn't stand a chance here of ever happening, we even have a Save Surrey Hills party who have considerable influence on the council. They forget that 80 years ago our own villages was built on open farm land, what would be green belt today.

                    People need space to live but where are we going to grow the additional food if farms are concreted over.
                     
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                      I haven't checked the local area for the number of GPs but I looked up the recommended number which is 1 GP per 1800 people. Well no new surgeries have been built so we either started with a fortunately high quantity of doctors or there's a deficit that's ignored during planning
                       
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                        I have an, empty hole for sale if anyone is interested.
                         
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                          I think we should have a policy where we start building at the very, very top of Scotland and work down from there. A couple of winters in houses up there should put a few folks off.
                           
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                            If it was a full hole, would it still be a hole.:scratch:
                             
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                              Be very, very wary of promises of things like GP surgeries etc. That was one of the things along with schools and local shops etc that were promised when they started developing around the village my mum lives in. One school appeared, no surgery was ever built, nor shops. On the upside, they are actually building houses and not massive tower blocks such as those we are seeing here.

                              They see the tower blocks as being an easy solution as you get a lot of homes in a small footprint - but they don't care a jot about the impacts of having them have on the community as well as those living in them.
                               
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