Latest Moan From You and Me 2024

Money isn't always the answer, because it can't replace that time with his family @JWK.
I know many people have varying opinions about the Police, depending on their personal experiences, but I can honestly say that mine has all been very good, on the few occasions I've needed their help, especially when escaping a serious situation.
Having said that - my ex BIL joined the force, and he's a total a88ehole. Even his own [very large] family has basically disowned him, including his own children.
Good and bad in every institution, and walk of life.

 

I remember being told (asked politely, but firmly) to relinquish my holiday because the office were short staffed. I reminded the managing director that I was going to be on my honeymoon.
I never did tell him that I was only going to be away for 10 days. I just told him I had booked two weeks, and I'd be in on the Monday. If he'd found out I would be home sooner, I'd have been called in.
Any other holiday would have been cancelled - but financially reimbursed. Nothing to cover the loss of enjoyment.
Admittedly, once I returned, I was spending more nights in London hotels, than at home with my wife. That went on for a couple of months.
NOT HAPPY!!

 

I'm not laying the blame on individuals. I'm saying everyone should be treated fairly within the system of law and order. That is the basis of democracy.

 

Wherever I worked it was always a case of putting in your holiday months in advance if possible, if you left it late you may not have the date you wanted, if it left them short handed.

I agree, though it does seem strange that the legal system can get things moving if pushed, but most of the time just hang things out in order to make money, for certain individuals, all in the name of giving someone a fair trial.

 

Agree, but under normal circumstances they would have reached court in about a years time probably.

 

But that works the other way too. Take 3 yrs to bring a rape case to court, or fail to prosecute at all, and that effectively says such offences have no priority in the system. Allow shoplifting to go uninvestigated but leap on looters and that says it is fine to steal but do it in broad daylight when the premises in question are open for business and don't be part of a group. And so on.

Plus, most defendants have the circumstances of their offending considered - how they came to that point, influences from their background cirs, and so on. That seems to be completely missing here. So, if you murder someone, your mental state at the time will be taken into account; if you riot, it seems not.

And further, the psychology of crowd behaviour needs to be weighted in. People behave different in an angry crowd setting.

I'm not condoning riots at all. But the justice system must be fair or you further alienate the people you most need to accept its values.

 

Now you've gone all funny.
You've been watching the Olympics.

 

I think the biggest thing that stopped the riots was the crowds that came out on the streets in counter protests.
Starmer is obviously going to say it was his doing, but it was probably a case of social media working for the good as well as the bad.

Totally agree @ViewAhead this has now set a president and if Starmer want to think its the courts that have stopped the riots he his going to have to get his finger out and sort the back log.
He is also going to have to come up with harsher sentences for other criminals instead of slapped wrists.