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  1. pete

    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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    Can anyone remember when the police used to direct traffic.:smile:
    These days they just shut roads .:mad:
     
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      It is all about looking after really tiny people
       
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        I remember it well, it was part of the driving test, being able to use hand signals to indicate to the policeman. An old photograph popped up recently on a Facebook page of my old home town, some young person had labelled it as a "Bobby watching the world go by", the policeman was stood in the middle of the road and was obviously directing traffic. They certainly kept traffic flowing better than the traffic lights that replaced them.

        Road works used to be better when they had the stop/go signs.
         
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          Not a great start for Starmer and his gormless gang, the magic money tree has withered. Giving in to the doctors and public sector workers and raiding pensioner's pockets is a disaster. Place your bets on the triple lock going next.
           
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            They already started mentioning PFI and taxes a dead cert to rise in October. They've spent their first months wazzing money away to get rid of strikes only to shortly realise more will ride on the back of the agreements and to see that the Tories, aside from currently being complete turds, were actually also trying to balance ridiculous pay offs with practical finances
             
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              They need watching, very carefully... their claims are for a £20bn black hole and that could be filled by circa £55 a month more tax paid by every working person in the UK and ONLY those in work.

              Already we are hearing of 10p being added to fuel duty (so roughly £6 on a tankful), potentially pay-per-mile (which we already do, with the exception of EV's) along with other tax hikes being mooted, including council tax. It would seem they are intending not only filling the so called black hole (that they mostly created) but overshooting the runway for it by a country mile.
               
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                @DiggersJo I am curious, what do you find funny on that last post?
                 
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                • pete

                  pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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                  No worries as they stated those with the broadest shoulders will take the biggest hit.

                  Just not sure who he thinks has the broadest shoulders.
                   
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                    My latest moan is because my three-pack of Yorkie bars has risen to £1.85. It was only £1.35 last week, and that's with inflation running about 2%.
                    It's not that long ago that the same item was 99p. I have to eat a Yorkie a day to hold back my seizures, and I can't get them on NHS prescription.
                     
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                      From what I understood, there has never been a £22bn black hole. There were projects that would have costed £22bn, but weren't covered.
                      What Labour did was to use the £22bn that didn't exists for the salary increases and other things (Hunt mentioned that Labour had a £24bn spread in the few days after the election), and because this wasn't financed in the first place, they now fill that black hole by increasing the taxes for everybody else.

                      @Fat Controller Please take Starmer seriously when he said working people are those who work but have so little that they need still support.
                      Everybody who has an income that doesn't require support are for Starmer just cows that can be milked.
                       
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                        Well, they don't want to hack off workers. And they don't want to hack off the super-rich. So ... as per ... that leaves those in the middle with a small amount of savings. :th scifD36:

                        I don't get this telling everyone how painful it is all going to be. The 2008 banking crisis was painful (except for the bankers). Austerity was painful and has left society shattered. Brexit was painful. Covid was painful. Are we not due some pain-relief? Or, if life is going to be endlessly painful from here on in, would it not be sensible to look at the source of the pain, ie a few siphoning everyone else dry?
                         
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                          I was going to suggest buying them in bulk from a cash and carry or Amazon - but having just looked at Amazon, the cheapest is £18.38 for 24 (76.5p per bar versus the 61.6p per bar you have just paid); it appears that will be the next thing to be priced out of reach.

                          Stevie Wonder on a dark night could see that Starmer and Reeves have created that black hole - now it appears their strategy to deal with the black hole is to create a bigger one to hide it in.
                           
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                            My ankles are painful. They can have that pain!

                            As of August 7, 2024, the price of cocoa beans was $8,380.13 per tonne, which is a 7.88% increase from the previous month and a 168.2% increase from the previous year. In early 2024, cocoa prices reached over $11,000 per metric ton, which is almost three times higher than the average price since the 1980s

                            It is the extreme high price of chocolate in April that is now 'feeding' through the system but I bet they won't drop the price now it has gone down a bit.
                             
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                              pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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                              I remember PMs many years ago always saying how hard times are, it's almost a tradition.
                              Starmer almost sounds like he's apologising for it and giving us all a warning, either things are going to be pretty dire for certain sections of society or he's running scared.
                              He knows he won the election with very few votes, actual support amongst the masses is not really there.
                               
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                                You might find this article interesting, wont necessarily reduce price of chocolate, nut could benefit cocoa farmers and reduce waste.
                                Swiss chocolate: Scientists cut waste and sugar
                                Like coffee and bananas, cocoa is struggling with climate change, new pathogens: also doesn't help that many youngsters head to the city rather than working hard on the cocoa farm for little money.
                                The farmers do not get anything like the price of cocoa traded as a commodity. The shortage of cocoa pushes the price of the commodity up.
                                 
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